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[Otta]

Look, Wethers isn't fine dining, we all know that. But their food is decent enough, and way better than you'd get in a lot of cafes.

They're great for booze and value.

They vary in atmosphere. The old one in Woolwich near my old office (not sure it's still there) was full of all day drinkers and felt rough as. I tended to avoid.

The Capitol just feels like a massive open space and not very intimate. I tend to avoid.

The fox on the hill feels like a pub, I quite like it.

The one in Penge does late knights beer dirt cheap, and feels like a pub and not rough. I like it lots.

Whilst they all sell the same stuff, they're not all the same, and I strongly believe that some have better kitchen staff than others.

[Parkdrive]

Otta, we accept that it isn't Michelin star quality, but I don't get the HUGE generalisation by some that Wethers are all crap. That's just bollocks

[uncleglen]

One of the best things about Wetherspoons is the lack of rubbish music.

[Otta]

Indeed, drink in an ED pub these days and it's hard to avoid sodding jazz.

[DulwichFox]

Otta Wrote:

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> Indeed, drink in an ED pub these days and it's

> hard to avoid sodding jazz.

This is becoming very true in The EDT.. and usually not very good Jazz .

Both Live and recorded..

Drives me MAD..

Foxy

[KidKruger]

Parky - I'm not assuming you have to be pissed to be IN a wetherspoons, I'm just saying that the only circumstances I can imagine it seeming like decent food is when pissed.

I don't assume that wetherspoons customers eat kebabs, but I am saying that I can see how having a menu sat there right in front of you is going to be more convenient, in some cases to some customers, than having to get up and leave and get a kebab.

Snooty - you flatter me, really.

I have eaten at wetherspoons years ago and it is edible, I concede that.

But no more than that.

[Parkdrive]

KidKruger Wrote:

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> Parky - I'm not assuming you have to be pissed to

> be IN a wetherspoons, I'm just saying that the

> only circumstances I can imagine it seeming like

> decent food is when pissed.

> I don't assume that wetherspoons customers eat

> kebabs, but I am saying that I can see how having

> a menu sat there right in front of you is going to

> be more convenient, in some cases to some

> customers, than having to get up and leave and get

> a kebab.

>

> Snooty - you flatter me, really.

>

> I have eaten at wetherspoons years ago and it is

> edible, I concede that.

> But no more than that.

I'm sorry to say that your remarks only serve to reinforce my belief that you think you drinking or dining, heaven forbid darling,in Wetherspoons is beneath you, hence the snooty reference. To each his own. I've experienced good and bad gastro pubs but would never make the sweeping generalisation about them that you've made about Wetherspoons. Like I say, to each his own.

[Louisa]

KK that's a bit harsh. Only edible? I have been to many other chain pub/restaurants and this is by far the best value for money. The likes of Harvester, Beefeater et al are offering the same food for pretty much double the price- and you don't need to be pissed to eat there either. I don't get why you'd need to be off ya jugs to want to order a sandwich and chips? I mean how amazing do you expect a ham and cheese panini to be for 4.95 with a drink?

Louisa.

[Otta]

Pub near my work (which would actually make an ideal wethers) charges about 3 times as much for a chicken burger, and it really is no better at all.

Again, wethers isn't fine dining, but it's a much better option than a fast food joint, and it's as good as a lot of more expensive chain pubs and some independent ones that don't have any local competition (like the one near my work which basically knows it has a captive market).

[KidKruger]

If you want to talk about gastro pubs please go ahead, for me that's a different conversation - not one that I thought was being had. By mentioning my views in wetherspoons I'm not automatically saying anything about other establishments, that's totally on you, so don't include me.

Parky - if you don't want to make sweeping generalisations well good for you, I'm impressed, I really am.

But I'm generalising, it's easy, lazy, and fun.

I have been in wetherspoons, a few years ago there was one when I and friends were students, they used to insist we go there because it was a 'good deal'.

Jesus Christ. Even when pissed-up, you surely have to draw the line somewhere.

[Help-Ma-Boab]

a couple of early Saturday morning sessions in The Drovers in Peckham. Interesting...good people. Big scaffolder from near Aberdeen I seem to remeber having a good chat with.

Guiness never tastes great to me though in Witheredspoons.

[DulwichFox]

Help-Ma-Boab Wrote:

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> a couple of early Saturday morning sessions in The

> Drovers in Peckham. Interesting...good people. Big

> scaffolder from near Aberdeen I seem to remeber

> having a good chat with.

>

> Guiness never tastes great to me though in

> Witheredspoons.

I like a decent pint of Guiness but it seems all pubs now serve just the Ice Cold stuff.

An Irish friend/neighbour has told be the original Guiness is no longer available.. ?

Is that right ? Surely not ?

Foxy

[Help-Ma-Boab]

I always go for draft Foxy. Ice cold is from same barrel. Room temperature Guiness is something I have had in Ireland. Very near spewed.

You still get non draft cans. Not my bag.

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> Help-Ma-Boab Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > a couple of early Saturday morning sessions in

> The

> > Drovers in Peckham. Interesting...good people.

> Big

> > scaffolder from near Aberdeen I seem to remeber

> > having a good chat with.

> >

> > Guiness never tastes great to me though in

> > Witheredspoons.

>

> I like a decent pint of Guiness but it seems all

> pubs now serve just the Ice Cold stuff.

> An Irish friend/neighbour has told be the original

> Guiness is no longer available.. ?

>

> Is that right ? Surely not ?

>

> Foxy

[Jah Lush]

FFS! Go to the pub a drink. Enjoy a good slurp with yer mates. Bollocks to the food. It's not what I go to a pub for. If you want fine dining go to a fecking restaurant. Bar snacks like peanuts is fine. Some decent ales and whiskies and I'm happy as a sandboy. The rest of you wanting something to eat can feck off out of my pub.

[Louisa]

I hate how pickled eggs are so hard to come by in pubs these days.

Louisa.

[Seabag]

Spoons = a branch of social services

Batter with defrosted fish flavour + chips

It's cheap for a reason, if you want 'drink' that is

Brockley Barge anyone?

I'm with KK on this one

[Sue]

Jah Lush Wrote:

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> FFS! Go to the pub a drink. Enjoy a good slurp

> with yer mates. Bollocks to the food. It's not

> what I go to a pub for. If you want fine dining go

> to a fecking restaurant. Bar snacks like peanuts

> is fine. Some decent ales and whiskies and I'm

> happy as a sandboy. The rest of you wanting

> something to eat can feck off out of my pub.

:))

[Otta]

Seabag Wrote:

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> Spoons = a branch of social services

That's just unpleasant.

>

> Batter with defrosted fish flavour + chips

>

> It's cheap for a reason, if you want 'drink' that

> is

What reason?

>

> Brockley Barge anyone?

>

> I'm with KK on this one

[????]

whilst I am sure there are some decent ones I've yet to find one I like. Still cheaper to drink at home and given I like to enjoy myself in a pub then no thanks, not my bag. Plus feels soooooo chainy

[BrandNewGuy]

But for decent draught ale they're very good - often in towns or areas which are beer deserts. CAMRA get a lot of stick from some of their members for putting quite a number of Spoons into the Good Beer Guide, but they point out that nearly all Spoons are Cask Marque - and it's called the Good Beer Guide, not the Good Pub Guide :-)

[Parkdrive]

Otta Wrote:

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> Seabag Wrote:

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> > Spoons = a branch of social services

>

>

> That's just unpleasant.

>

>

> >

> > Batter with defrosted fish flavour + chips

> >

> > It's cheap for a reason, if you want 'drink'

> that

> > is

>

>

> What reason?

>

> >

> > Brockley Barge anyone?

> >

> > I'm with KK on this one

Otta, and they reckon they're not snooty? Yeah right.

[Jah Lush]

BrandNewGuy Wrote:

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> But for decent draught ale they're very good -

> often in towns or areas which are beer deserts.

> CAMRA get a lot of stick from some of their

> members for putting quite a number of Spoons into

> the Good Beer Guide, but they point out that

> nearly all Spoons are Cask Marque - and it's

> called the Good Beer Guide, not the Good Pub Guide

> :-)

This ^^^^

It has to be said the beer selection in Weatherspoons is excellent. For me they would be a welcome addition to East Dulwich. I particularly like the Moon & Stars on Penge High Street, which incidentally reminds of Lordship Lane before the gentrification.

[aquarius moon]

Seabag Wrote:

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> Spoons = a branch of social services

>

Snooty, nasty comment.

[Otta]

Moon and Stars, that's the fella. I just call it the Penge one.

[Parkdrive]

Jah Lush Wrote:

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> BrandNewGuy Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > But for decent draught ale they're very good -

> > often in towns or areas which are beer deserts.

> > CAMRA get a lot of stick from some of their

> > members for putting quite a number of Spoons

> into

> > the Good Beer Guide, but they point out that

> > nearly all Spoons are Cask Marque - and it's

> > called the Good Beer Guide, not the Good Pub

> Guide

> > :-)

>

>

> This ^^^^

>

> It has to be said the beer selection in

> Weatherspoons is excellent. For me they would be a

> welcome addition to East Dulwich. I particularly

> like the Moon & Stars on Penge High Street, which

> incidentally reminds of Lordship Lane before the

> gentrification.

I agree, and I use it once every couple of weeks. And as you said in a previous post, just go to the pub for a bevvy in the company of friends and family.