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[beaver14uk]

Thanks to the lovely people who spat at one my colleagues on the 185 last Saturday. From what I understand they either hailed the bus too late or were running and he didn't notice them in time to pull up. He then pulled up at the next stop and waited for them then they treated him like this. As a result he had to take is spit kit to Lewisham Police Station for checking DNA samples and so then whole journey from Dulwich to Victoria was cut. Then I got the blame from passengers for being late although I knew none of this until later. Lets hope its not like that tomorrow when I am on 185 again. Oh and I do know Angry Nigel!!!!!

[Huguenot]

Good for you beaver for raising your head and letting us know what it's like to be on the other side of the Oystercard reader!

Shocking behaviour from a beneficiary of the driver's help. Shame on them, and I hope the DNA shows him/her up.

[PeckhamRose]

Any idea why Nigel is so angry?

[beaver14uk]

Generally I actually like the 185 and don't really have any problems. Nigel as you call him is actually a really nice man that is just doing his job - best not stir all that up again me thinks.

[Applespider]

Hope they catch the spitters although not entirely sure what they'll be able to charge them with? Would it be classed as assault? Can they ban them from buses? I've been spat at once and it was a horrible experience.

It's always surprised me how much some people get riled up at the next bus driver to show up after a long wait. Since it's highly unlikely to be his fault (it's more likely to be a bus broken down, traffic or some other incident), why start ranting at the poor sod who is now actually going to get you home/to work/to shops?

[beaver14uk]

I don't expect they will be caught although the CCTV will be downloaded as to my knowledge it is assault. I was somewhat bemused when the lady at Goose Green said to me "and where have you been" because I didn't know the bus in front was missing and I was bang on time.

Be kind to me tomorrow if you are planning to use the 185.

[KalamityKel]

beaver... a little suggestion perhaps... whilst it's nice to keep passengers in the loop this way remember there are some things you are not really meant to share with the public or those outside of your company.

[Xena Worried prince]

What like the fact that a 185 was actually on time.... I agree that would be disturbing for the public to know ....

[KalamityKel]

Ya get me!

No seriously, no one would want anyone getting the sack for no proper reason...

[Mikecg]

I know of one person who was imprisoned for spitting at a tram driver, it is common assault and the penalty is quite high, having said that it is a disgusting thing to do to a person. However if somebody is antagonistic there are insults that are far more cutting and you cant get done for it as far as I know, although I am not a violent person I can get agitated by other peoples disrespect nit picking and if they are being unreasonable I might say something very nasty especially to traffic wardens.

[lenk]

KalamityKel Wrote:

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> beaver... a little suggestion perhaps... whilst

> it's nice to keep passengers in the loop this way

> remember there are some things you are not really

> meant to share with the public or those outside of

> your company.

You know, just a hunch, but I reckon beaver14uk isn't his real name ; )

Quite a few London bus drivers have blogs which fly pretty close to the wind, it's a good thing. (http://buncha-eastlondonbus.blogspot.com/ springs to mind))

[piglet]

I'm sorry but I have to disagree that Nigel is a nice person. He is a bully and gets a kick out of intimidating passengers. Why does he have a bicycle chain tied around the door to the driver's cab? Why does he have to sound the emergency siren everytime he passes another 185 bus en route?

Val Shawcross is currently investigating my complaint about this dreadful driver. He should have been sacked years ago.

[AllforNun]

I love nigel, he' s one of Nunhead's finest. Keep doing what you do best nige, single them out and kick their raas asses of the bus ! and if Val shows up sound your horn twice and wave that VHS at her.......she knows !

[beaver14uk]

Not quite sure that I follow you - what have I posted that is inappropriate?

[beaver14uk]

He is protecting revenue at the end of the day. The more people escape paying their fares the more you will end up footing the bill - clearly you are happy to do that. I suspect that he chains himself in because he challenges passengers more than others. As for sounding the alarm no he shouldn't really do it - but if thats all you have to worry about I think its really sad. I can't see him getting sacked for doing his job.

[Amelie]

Beaver

What about the two old ladies whom he shouted at which I reported on this site? I complained to TfL who told me that they had passed it on to East Thames Buses and since then nothing. Do you think it was alright for him to verbally abuse a 90 year old and her partially sighted friend? Is that doing his job?

[karter]

and what about the way Nigel treated Will Dex and his brother? Was that the right thing to do too?

[beaver14uk]

If true no its not alright but as I wasn't there I can't really comment. I do know from reading the posts that some things clearly do not relate to him i.e. he wears an earing he used to be on the N12 I think that some people have muddled him up with someone else. What I do think was out of order is placing somebodys photogragh on a public website.

[AllforNun]

were these old ladies wearing disguises ? how do we know they were 90 and partially sighted....it sounds like a classic OAP ruse to me....one made me carry her shopping out of sainsbury's to her car the other day next thing i knew she was loading all her humbugs and mini bottles of whiskey in a rucksack hitching up her skirt and leaped aboard a green Kawasaki Ninja she had parked up at the end of the car park....she even flicked me the bird as she sped away...cheeky layabout

[wyrdharley]

Nigel is not angry so long as everyone who gets on his bus plays by the rules..... very simple...BTW, I know him & he is actually a very nice guy.

[piglet]

wyrdharley Wrote:

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> Nigel is not angry so long as everyone who gets on

> his bus plays by the rules..... very simple...BTW,

> I know him & he is actually a very nice guy.

Nigel is always angry and grumpy. He is a bully and gets a buzz out of intimidating and bullying vulnerable passengers. There is currently an inquiry underway regarding his behaviour.

Why does he have a strong bicycle chain wrapped around the door of the driver's cab? One can only suspect this is to avoid someone ripping his head off when he attempts to bully the wrong person!!

[KalamityKel]

Now admin surely the above comment is getting a little near the mark...

[SeanMacGabhann]

there is the "report this Message" button right there kel... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[KalamityKel]

Piglet defamation of character is a serious matter especially when hearsay based on no factuality whatsoever only opinion.

[Applespider]

I find the fact that the 185 has joined the rank of talking buses far more irritating than a driver who I've never noticed - so I'm guessing that he can't terrorise everyone.