new video footage shows police assaulting Tomlinson from behind

[Peckhamgatecrasher]

Does anyone else think that calling it Operation Glencoe is a bit sick?

[AllforNun]

So just found out that Boris Johnson may have a lot to answer for; what did he say to the police that he met just before the protest's how did he say he wanted the situation dealt with, did he make it clear that he had no time for these "crustys" and they should be severely dealt with: 9 years under the last Major numerous protests and no incidents anywhere near on this scale i.e Manslaughter. If you have any doubt that the Conservative party have in noway changed their spots then this death and the manner in which the event was policed under a conservative major of london says everything. Apparently the tory spin machine picked this up on the day and have been in hiding ever since no wonder they want to raise this smear thing and keep it in the headlines, this is a disaster for any would be conservative government. This is Boris Blue Boy Johnson's leading article in the telegrpah a few days before the g20 summit...inflammatory or what ! No wonder the police were so heavy handed.

" the alienated children of the middle classes are planning to subvert the G20 summit. Across the desolate wastes of the Leftie internet, their wrathful campfires are already burning, and when April dawns they will surge like the orcs of Mordor in the general direction of the Bank of England."

What a nob this man is....surely he needs to be called to account, an open and public review is needed, he needs to be questioned.

[LegalEagle-ish]

Never thought of that angle as it goes. Good point. He's a danger to society and it still amazes me that he got elected to run London.

[Huguenot]

In through the nose, out through the mouth. Easy now, let's get the point across...

[Keef]

He's a danger to society and it still amazes me that he got elected to run London.

And Ken was pure as snow?

[daizie]

jesus christ, the police are thugs/bullies, seems to me like they cant wait to take it out on the public, much more thrilling than having wank

[SeanMacGabhann]

Re: JetSetWilly's earlier assertion that the police will be shown in a more positive light in time re: Tomlinson

It's not looking that way yet, and getting worse day by day

I've been keeping abreast of this and what's shocking me is the lack of shock on the police side. Lots of policemen saying the coverage is one-sided and biase (and in the context of this story there is a bit of that) but not one of them wants to deal with the repercussions of what this actually means. Instead of addressing the issue head on, and the breakdown of trust that will ensue, they are adopting a seige mentality

Unimpressed

[AllforNun]

The 'new' still footage in the guardian makes them look, well even better. He's just standing on his own by a tree and some bikes hands in his pockets completely minding his own business when a group of 6 police walk towards him from a fair distance away and well.....beat him till he dies.....

any other footage or is it all in some government building somewhere being erased.

[louisiana]

Sean, I'm not at all surprised.

The police have been doing this stuff for years, decades. They are not shocked because that is what quite a few of them have been doing all their lives. I was there for just a very few of them e.g. at a marriage ceremony in Brixton when the first Brixton riots broke out two hundred yards away and witness to just what kind of shit the police got up to then. I've seen things far, far worse than what we are seeing on all this video footage etc. Circa 1981.

The difference now is that just about everyone has a camera or phone with camera or camcorder or whatever. Before, there was never any indisputable evidence. Now there is. That's great. Just a pity that we apparently cannot now legally take pix of the plods. How convenient!

They are perhaps only shocked/surprised that they have been 'found out' in terms of public opinion in 'middle England'. They are not used to being on the front page of the Daily Wail pictured doing their mis-deeds.

[AllforNun]

Very interesting protest at the 'Den' today - outside the ground with i think some of his relatives and right in in front of the police a man dressed in a funeral directors top hat and tails shouting in town crier fashion

"justice for ian tomlinson, a Millwall supporter killed by the FILTH ! , never let the bastards get you down"

Millwall went on to win 2-0 then the stadium erupted into a slow chant of MURDERERS then a sedate pitch invasion ensued police formed a line across the pitch and there was a momentary face off and still came the chants MURDERERS.

[Huguenot]

Why is that good?

[Peckhamgatecrasher]

AFN said 'interesting', not 'good'. BTW it was 2-1 from behind.

[Huguenot]

So AFN doesn't think that's good?

[Huguenot]

Clever perhaps?

[Huguenot]

Insightful?

[Huguenot]

Helpful?

Likely to benefit society?

[Chick]

Sorry to be off topic.

AFN I sent you a PM, could you read it please, I need your advice on bee's.

[AllforNun]

Yes good, positive and helpful I am sure that the Suffragettes had to throw a few stones at parliment to get things changed !

And what dreamy society are you talking about H-0 ? the one that driven by rampant capitalism which has in turn fuelled globalization to fulfill it's own aim's is about to get decimated by wonderful new strains of flu that have developed as a result.

Next time you sentence the guy's behind the website Pirate Bay to Death you will be wearing a oxygen suit to do it ! I am sure however there will only be enough for the society you choose at the time.....much love my friend.

[????]

of course, rampant communism proved itself fantastic

[Brendan]

Why are there only 2 ways?

[SeanMacGabhann]

Agreed Brendan - but quids seems in unusually combatative mode today. - complaining about rampant capitalism = supporting communism apparently...

[mockney piers]

Sorry, CDOs caused swine flu now on top of everything else? Weird.

[AllforNun]

But what caused this acceleration of swine flu evolution? Probably the same thing that has favored the reproduction of avian flu. Virologists have long believed that the intensive agricultural system of southern China--an immensely productive ecology of rice, fish, pigs, and domestic and wild birds--is the principal engine of influenza mutation: both seasonal "drift" and episodic genomic "shift." (More rarely, there may occur a direct leap from birds to pigs and/or humans, as with H5N1 in 1997.) But the corporate industrialization of livestock production has broken China's natural monopoly on influenza evolution. As many writers have pointed out, animal husbandry in recent decades has been transformed into something that more closely resembles the petrochemical industry than the happy family farm depicted in schoolbooks. In 1965, for instance, there were 53 million American hogs on more than 1 million farms; today, 65 million hogs are concentrated in 65,000 facilities--half with more than 5,000 animals. This has been a transition, in essence, from old-fashioned pig pens to vast excremental hells, unprecedented in nature, containing tens, even hundreds of thousands of animals with weakened immune systems, suffocating in heat and manure, while exchanging pathogens at blinding velocity with their fellow inmates and pathetic progenies.

Off Topic or what - another thread maybe !

[Huguenot]

I think it's population that demands intensive farming, not capitalism. We should really by thanking our lucky stars that capitalism provides the investment and incentive to develop appropriate solutions.

Regardless, I'm rather staggered that anyone would imagine that the best solution for a law and order issue is to riot.

[AllforNun]

it's not a law and order issue though is it ? thats certainly not a definition of law and order killing a man becuase you fancy bashing some crustys ! Don't be staggered , a brick thrown from a mob will get you staggering !