Dulwich Going Greener

[LauraHW]

Does anyone know if this group is still active? I haven't heard anything about them for a while.

[uncleglen]

Dulwich is probably as green as it's going to get since every available bit of land is being built on and people seem to be going in for stupidly concreting over their front gardens- and maybe their back gardens for all I know. My neighbour is forever moaning about the tree outside the house...in spring it's the birds crapping on his car and the sap, then it's the leaves falling in his garden.....ffs

[Jennys]

I wish the council would say no to everyone who wants to turn their front garden into a car parking space.

[Earl Aelfheah]

It crushes me every time I see another front garden being concreted over.

[mynamehere]

well consider this: Save Southwark 100 Acre Woods (aka Camberwell old and New Cemeteries)

The Next Event is Monday the 25th at 11am to 1pm in Camberwell Old Cemetery off Forest Hill Road

For Save Southwark Woods

[email protected]

www.savesouthwarkwoods.org.uk

@southwarkwoods

Facebook Page Save Southwark Woods

To support the call to Save Southwark Woods, sign the petition here: https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/save-southwark-woods

Contact campaign co-ordinators for images and info:

[email protected]

Or go to:

Twitter: @southwarkwoods

Facebook page: Save Southwark Woods

www.savesouthwarkwoods.org.uk

[emu]

Answer is yes. Dulwich going greener is still actively running and funding the Dulwich vegetable garden behind Rosebery lodge in Dulwich park. All welcome to come along and volunteer and learn lots about growing your own veg and take home some produce. They are also looking new session leaders. Summer opening times Wed 10-12 and Sun 10-12

[Sue]

rahrahrah Wrote:

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> It crushes me every time I see another front

> garden being concreted over.

And me.

Or astroturfed :(

[natty01295]

All because of the car, Obsessed people,

its a shame because I love green spaces! Everyone does I think?

[jomou]

Just to play devil's advocate... we've just had our front garden paved over for parking.

We don't own a car, but we want to make it easier for elderly relatives who have mobility problems but cannot reliably get a parking spot near our house (because all the people driving to the nearby gym clog up the street).

We paved with granite stones reclaimed from another driveway, and left soil beds all around the edges to provide sustainable urban drainage. We will be planting in these beds.

My point is - not every paved driveway indicates gas-guzzling, car-obsessed, environment-hating, selfish homeowners. But of course urban creep is a real issue and paving has to be done responsibly.

[Andybol]

I work as a sustainability advisor specialising in energy efficiency if you guys want to extend it to use of energy in homes?

[natty01295]

What do anybody else think about this issue ??

[natty01295]

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[natty01295]

This issue what I am talking about, anyone have any views ?

[stringvest]

"My point is - not every paved driveway indicates gas-guzzling, car-obsessed, environment-hating, selfish homeowners"

Not every one, but most. What you get is TWO SPACES, that only you can use, the bit on your land and the bit of road that no one can now park on for blocking you in ?????? So you always have a saved space outside your houses ... happens everywhere people have given themselves a space for one car, they get TWO !!

[Callie]

I personally don't see anything wrong with anyone turning their garden into a parking space if they want to. It's a bit sad, yes but what else are they supposed to do if they don't have a garage or anywhere to park?

[Jennys]

I wish the Council would ban front garden parking spaces.

[Penguin68]

I wish the Council would ban front garden parking spaces

This would then put more cars parked on the streets - with fewer passing places on narrow streets (off street parking in effect normally creates a passing space) - and more likelihood of accidents/ damage/ vandalism (all of which has a cost). It would be reasonable, however, to require hard standing for cars to be made out of water permeable materials, either gravel over membrane, bricks laid over sand (bricks are water permeable, unless specially treated) or whatever (you can get a grid which sits over lawn and will support cars, allowing a lawn to grow through it). It is concrete or asphalt which cause environmental problems, creating run-off etc.

Of course well-tended front gardens with flowers, shrubs etc. are 'nice' (and are still achievable, depending on the size of space, when where cars are parked-up) but banning parking cannot mandate pretty front gardens - so there is no necessarily aesthetic advantage in such a ban.

[Siduhe]

Penguin68 Wrote:

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It would be reasonable, however, to require

> hard standing for cars to be made out of water

> permeable materials, either gravel over membrane,

> bricks laid over sand (bricks are water permeable,

> unless specially treated) or whatever (you can get

> a grid which sits over lawn and will support cars,

> allowing a lawn to grow through it). It is

> concrete or asphalt which cause environmental

> problems, creating run-off etc.

We bought our house with an off-street parking space already created but it was a condition of planning that the surface be made of special spacer type bricks to allow for permeability and support. I'm not sure if that is just because our house was a new-build or whether it is a standard requirement applied in Southwark when anyone wants a drop kerb for an existing garden, but the Council were pretty hot at specifying their requirements for off-street parking (this is back in 2006/7).

[Earl Aelfheah]

Penguin68 Wrote:

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> I wish the Council would ban front garden parking

> spaces

>

> This would then put more cars parked on the

> streets - with fewer passing places on narrow

> streets (off street parking in effect normally

> creates a passing space) - and more likelihood of

> accidents/ damage/ vandalism (all of which has a

> cost). It would be reasonable, however, to require

> hard standing for cars to be made out of water

> permeable materials, either gravel over membrane,

> bricks laid over sand (bricks are water permeable,

> unless specially treated) or whatever (you can get

> a grid which sits over lawn and will support cars,

> allowing a lawn to grow through it). It is

> concrete or asphalt which cause environmental

> problems, creating run-off etc.

>

> Of course well-tended front gardens with flowers,

> shrubs etc. are 'nice' (and are still achievable,

> depending on the size of space, when where cars

> are parked-up) but banning parking cannot mandate

> pretty front gardens - so there is no necessarily

> aesthetic advantage in such a ban.

I don't' agree with this. I think there is an aesthetic and even psycho-spatial argument against cars parked up in front of houses. They often involve the removal of the front wall and so the feeling of walking through a safe pedestrian space is undermined. It effectively draws the road up, over the pavement, towards the houses. It removes the feeling of separation and 'free', uncontested space.

[Earl Aelfheah]

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[ChristineB]

Dulwich Going Greener is no longer in operation (it closed in September 2016).

Dulwich Vegetable Garden behind Rosebery Lodge in Dulwich Park is still going, and is always looking for more volunteers and session leaders. From 1 November to 1 March, it is open only on Sundays, 10.30-12.30. For the rest of the year it is also open on Wednesdays at the same time. Contact [email protected] if you are interested.

Regards

Christine

[natty01295]

There needs to groups / Charity organizations to get things sorted with greening up the area

Our environment is delicate and needs looking after

Climate change is Real

What can we do ?