East Dulwich Street cred.

[FJDGoose]

army - bargy ?

[Louisa]

Pedant!

Louisa.

[BrandNewGuy]

FJDGoose Wrote:

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> army - bargy ?

Yeah - bloke in the army, fought the Argies, now 'aving a bit of argy-bargy. Louisa's favourite pub would have a threatening looking meathead propping up the corner of the bar pretending he'd been 'in the Paras'.

[KidKruger]

Foxy what planet you on mate, repeated fights in a pub and no-one gets hurt ?

Doesn't work like that in reality - sounds nice though..

[KidKruger]

BTW Foxy.

I had a sandwich in the Castle on Saturday, it was ?2 and was a proper basic sandwich... it was LOVELY...

Just like the Great Exhibition ones are (but 1/3 of the price).

Crazy eh. ?

[Louisa]

Gotta love the castle KK. What sandwich did you have?

Louisa.

[DulwichFox]

Toasted Cheese and Tomato

Foxy

[Louisa]

I miss a good cheese and onion sandwich. Pubs used to do those years ago. Can't get them anywhere now.

Louisa.

[malumbu]

Not sure what toasties have to do with anything.

Pub fights. We used to get them outside the Greyhound in Sydenham. That was twenty plus years ago. There was often brawls in Streatham when we used to go to the pictures there. Haven't seen a fight for years. Maybe I go to the wrong pubs.

Looking back on the Boys from the Blackstuff, not enough cigarette smoke but I like the wadge of fivers at the end which was a small fortune. At about 40p a pint. Not also a proper pub with blokes drinking proper ale. None of this crapt ale nonsense.

OK returning to Liverpool did see two most excellent brawls there, like the wild west, in the late 80s. One we were sitting down watching music, to get a late license you had to have entertainment. It all kicked off, but you had this odd situation where a number of people got up to join in, and a number sat down to get away from it. Genuinely think it was a free for all rather than someone getting picked on.

Memories

[Earl Aelfheah]

If your idea of a good pub is one where a small group of regulars beat up anyone they don't know in the toilets, then we've pretty different ideas of a good night out. Personally, I dont find bullying, intimidation and violence particularly entertaining, but each to their own I guess.

[Louisa]

It's just a bit of a punch up and then everyone shakes hands and gets a round in. What has this world come to when you can't even experience an authentic bust-up in the local? Jeez.

Louisa.

[Earl Aelfheah]

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> Even used to happen in The Plough in the 80's

>

> Was the regular floorshow and scrap.. Just a bit

> of light Cabaret.

>

> Same as the Foresters. Always the same people.

> Locals who I knew so they did not do me any harm.

As long as they left you alone, then sure, why not enjoy some thug knocking ten bells out of some other poor soul. What a laugh.

[Earl Aelfheah]

Louisa Wrote:

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> It's just a bit of a punch up and then everyone

> shakes hands and gets a round in. What has this

> world come to when you can't even experience an

> authentic bust-up in the local? Jeez.

>

> Louisa.

louisa, I'm sorry, but your romanticising of the past is getting silly. I remember only too well the kind of pubs you're describing. The casualisation of violence was never a good thing. And although it may have appeared that everyone shook hands and moved on, a lot of those kind of guys weren't very nice... many a pissed up bloke who had been humiliated in a pub brawl would take violence home at the end of the night to feel like a big man again. I'm glad that whole negative culture has largely died out.

[FJDGoose]

Louisa Wrote:

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> Pedant!

>

> Louisa.

Cobblers !

[DulwichFox]

Rah x 3

Most of the punch ups in the Forester were between mates or even brothers.

They were usually too pissed to even make contact.

Then it was kiss on the bald head and have a drink

That's how it was.

Foxy

[Louisa]

Rah this isn't the past, it happens in pubs across cities, towns and villages across this country. And I'm sure there are plenty of London boozers which still have the same culture, but they've become the exception rather than the rule. I'm not romanticising violence rah, it was just a reality back then around here and it never really escalated into anything more than a quick few punches (maybe someone gets barred) and then all is back to normal. This was and remains a part of working class culture, rightly or wrongly.

I don't think its right to assume that a brawl in a pub would lead onto violence in the home. I think those bullying types will engage in that behaviour at home regardless of whether they've been down the pub, and that of course is inexcusable.

Louisa.

[DulwichFox]

I'm beginning to feel not for the first time

That Louisa and myself are the only 2 people

Here on EDF that really remember what

E.D was really like.

I have clear memories of most if not All pubs in

The area going back 35 years

Foxy

[DulwichFox]

And I used to drink in the Msgdala

When I lived in Peckham in the 70's

And the Clock House when it was a posh pub

With all the bikers in the little snug upstairs

When Foxy oops sorry 3rd person I was a biker.8

Foxy

[*Bob*]

I totally agree with Fox and Lou. Fighting in pubs is brilliant. If there's a glass in the face - even better.

So come on, people! Let's bring the ambience on - SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL PROPPA BOOZER this Saturday night - by crushing a pint pot into someone's eye socket.

[Jah Lush]

Fox And Lou. You're forgetting I was there too. Plenty of fights in the Uplands, EDT, Foresters, Cherry Tree and of course The Mag. And I remember some really nasty ones, glasses, blades and plenty of blood spilt. Not nice. You're romanticising of the past is complete and utter bollocks.

[Louisa]

Don't forget The Palmerston Jah. Plenty of rowdy behaviour in there back in the day. I always remember being there once back in the early 80s with friends, and a wedding reception was taking up one side of the bar. All of a sudden one of the tanked up regulars came in and exposed his meat and two veg for all to see. Flapping it around he was. We just all laughed it off after. That's just the way it was. I also remember good old Ted was working as the barman in there back then. Lovely guy. I genuinely miss those times.

Louisa.

[numbers]

Don't worry Louisa, you can still get meat and two veg in the Palmerston. With truffle oil.

[Louisa]

Meh.

Louisa.

[DulwichFox]

Anyway I'm signing off Im in my usual watering hole The Edt

And they are playing some decent music tonight

We are not gonna sit in silence John Farnham The Voice

Foxy

[*Bob*]

I think you're confusing 'someone getting their cock out' with 'the plunging of a piece of glass deep into human flesh'.

Easily done. often do the same myself.