Skips (people using mine) (Lounged)

[kford]

Someone's just put a load of cardboard in mine - on recycling day too.

Nice.

[sophiesofa]

I would be peeved if my skip got filled with other peoples crap. They're really expensive to hire and quite a hassle to organise if you don't have a drive way. Maybe if i ever got one I'd put a sign on it that if you dump something put some money through my post box please. I think some people would.

[prettyflowers]

I've seen one skip in Dulwich with a sign on it telling not to put rubbish in their skip (it says how much they paid too). Makes me laugh each time I see it but its true, I think its a good idea, make a little sign, maybe these people will think twice! (also, I do love rummaging through skips!)

[snorky]

shite on street vs shite in your skip

I know which one I would prefer - think of it as a service to the communtity by the back door

If you are so bothered, then get it delivered and taken away same day - cheaper too.maybe Maybe rethink that SO important new kitchen with designer cubby holes - do you really need it ? best get a few more years out of the old one and avoud consigning it to landfill if you are really that bothered

PS If the tab behind the bar is your employers , then do you really care if someone has a sly pint or two on it ?

[*Bob*]

If you have to suffer a neverending summer of skips deposited just outside your front room, delivered at 7am by reverse-bleeping aticulated lorries.. you might just feel justified in chucking an old bog in one of them.

[lenk]

My mate got an immaculate steel drum, complete with beaters out of a skip a few years ago. Amazing what people can't be arsed to eBay.

There was a nice Weber BBQ in one on Dunstan's Road off the top of The Rye last week, couldn't face carrying it home though. Should have an EDF 'skip challenge'. I see a lot of good furniture being cast away all the time..

[citizenED]

Childhood skipping = carefree way of progressing down the street at a jaunty pace

Youth skipping = decking out your first flat with items 'taken' from skips

Middle aged skipping = hiring skip and getting workmen to dump in it your old kitchen

[thebeard]

Cover it with ?12 tarpaulin or your ?200 skip will be filled faster than you can say mattressssss and sofasss. B)

[Polly D]

What a load of sh**e Snorky. Why should someone who is paying a rate of ?250/full skip pay for other people's mess? Much better to encourage our neighbours to ring the council for them to collect (for free) unwanted matresses/sofas etc. The council is there to provide a service to the community, not a neighbour having some work done to their home. And why do you assume it's for a fancy new kitchen? Could be for essential maintenance repairwork to the house or garden.

And I'm sure you would be narked if someone drank your pint you'd just paid for - 'Oh sorry mate, I've got no money but I really fancied a drink and so you're providing me with a service by paying for my drink'... think you'd be pretty gobsmacked.

[????]

I had a skip outside for a few days and some neighbours put some stuff in there........so what, didn't bother me as much as it seems to have you having a breakdown.

PS what street do you live on?...i've a couple of broken chairs and an old barbie I need to get rid

[Brendan]

I thought it was Cindy that the boys in England play with?

[????]

Groupie - barbie - cindie....I'm all at sea

[woofmarkthedog]

The street in which the skip is generally placed is a public space, so a large open bin is there for all, cover it if you dont want to see it filled. However if it is on your private land & within your boundary then that is a different matter......

Whingers....

W**F

* ohh the joy of dumping in another skip*

[Sue]

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[first mate]

Skips, skips everywhere. Ditto loft conversions and other extensions. Massive inconvenience for others who have to negotiate huge pallets of sand and other sundry building materials left around on road and pavement, not to mention building dust that regularly smothers one's home, car and bronchial tracts. I won't even get into the light-stealing, aesthetic-smack-in-the-eye impositions of loft conversions.

I don't know what this skip is for but spare a thought for neighbours who have to endure your building work.

[woofmarkthedog]

Building envy more like....

W**F

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[*Bob*]

Everybody's entitled to essential expansions of their living-space (essential granite-topped expansions, I mean).

Getting a bog in your skip is virtually a rite of passage, isn't it?

And what's wrong with the way those loft conversions look? Why, to see those dainty black boxes with their shimmering felt roofs delicately rested atop the characterful Victorian brickwork, you could be forgiven for wondering why they didn't design them that way in the first place.

[thebeard]

first mate Wrote:

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> Skips, skips everywhere. Ditto loft conversions

> and other extensions. Massive inconvenience for

> others who have to negotiate huge pallets of sand

> and other sundry building materials left around on

> road and pavement, not to mention building dust

> that regularly smothers one's home, car and

> bronchial tracts. I won't even get into the

> light-stealing, aesthetic-smack-in-the-eye

> impositions of loft conversions.

>

> I don't know what this skip is for but spare a

> thought for neighbours who have to endure your

> building work.

first NIMBY mate

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

Have you never had building work carried out?

Don?t YOU live in a house or flat, which was built?

Are YOU suggesting that we all live in open fields and don?t build or extend and improve homes?

Loft conversions are by far the greenest most environmentally friendly way of extending a house or flat which at the same time increase insulation, the addition of another bedroom using sustainable materials mostly timber make for a far more environmentally efficient use of what is otherwise a dead damp un-insulated space above many houses and flats.

I cannot fathom the mentality of hate towards loft conversions.

Would YOU rather millions of tons of Co2 were pumped into the atmosphere to create new foundations and make new bricks to build new homes where a simple extension on the rear of a existing house or the addition of a loft conversion would increase the use of the existing housing stock?

I despair with the lack of though and the NAIVE mentality that some like YOU apply to environment and the poor inefficient use of the housing stock. Utter nonsense which PEOPLE like YOU spout.

(light-stealing, aesthetic-smack-in-the-eye.)

That?s Living in London regardless.

If anything the government should encourage all homes in london to have loft conversions and standardise the design and materials for the type of property.

You are obviously keen for us to live in dark pokey holes which were build a hundred years ago, oh I forgot we already DO.

first NIMBY mate YOU ARE TALKING UTTER UTTER NONSENSE!

[Penguin68]

Some years ago I developed the theory of skip equilibrium (based on personal experiences in the late ?80s in SE Dulwich, and some previous observations in Clapham). This theory does not apply to skips used for builders rubble or garden waste.

On day one, the skip is delivered and you fill it with household rubbish. On night one the skip is half emptied by scavengers and a quarter re-filled by surreptitious neighbours. On day two you refill the skip by adding a further 25% skipfulls of your rubbish. On night two it is again half emptied and a quarter refilled. On day 3 you add a further 25%, now having thrown away 150% skipfulls of rubbish into one skip.

On night 3 the skip is emptied by only a quarter and refilled again. The skip has now achieved equilibrium; small amounts will disappear and be added until day seven, when someone throws away an old, wet, carpet which covers the (now mounded) skip and discourages either further additions or more scavenging. The skip is now collected.

The important point is that the skip being used as a public object actually allows you to throw away more than if it wasn't. The only caveat is that you must fill it quickly with your own rubish on the first day.

[*Bob*]

Loft conversions are like bicycle helmets.

A great idea, everybody should have one.. but they look crap.

[lenk]

Penguin68 Wrote:

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> Some years ago I developed the theory of skip

> equilibrium (based on personal experiences in the

> late ?80s in SE Dulwich, and some previous

> observations in Clapham). This theory does not

> apply to skips used for builders rubble or garden

> waste.

>

> On day one, the skip is delivered and you fill it

> with household rubbish. On night one the skip is

> half emptied by scavengers and a quarter re-filled

> by surreptitious neighbours. On day two you refill

> the skip by adding a further 25% skipfulls of your

> rubbish. On night two it is again half emptied and

> a quarter refilled. On day 3 you add a further

> 25%, now having thrown away 150% skipfulls of

> rubbish into one skip.

>

> On night 3 the skip is emptied by only a quarter

> and refilled again. The skip has now achieved

> equilibrium; small amounts will disappear and be

> added until day seven, when someone throws away an

> old, wet, carpet which covers the (now mounded)

> skip and discourages either further additions or

> more scavenging. The skip is now collected.

>

> The important point is that the skip being used as

> a public object actually allows you to throw away

> more than if it wasn't. The only caveat is that

> you must fill it quickly with your own rubish on

> the first day.

This should be in all maths textbooks - Along with ?devise an approximate general formula for calculating the volume within the skip on any given day?

It could be printed on the side of all skips as a handy ready reckoner too... : )

[thebeard]

*Bob* Wrote:

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> Loft conversions are like bicycle helmets.

>

> A great idea, everybody should have one.. but they

> look crap.

They only look crap because the planning system allows them to all be built to different sizes and styles and constructed with various material finishes.

If Southwark planning set out clear standards then they could be made to look far nicer full width brick built sides rather than tiles or lead wouldn?t take much to standardise the construction style and keep them a good size in Islington I believe they have set standard styles which lean back mansard style and look far nicer.

[Huguenot]

firstmate being reasonable and thebeard in abusive personal post related to property shocker.

Please stop attacking people, it's embarrassing. Really. I take it people have seen the 'internet+anonymity=idiot' cartoon? Surely? How old?

It would take a spectacular lack of intellect to find this behaviour impressive.

If people aren't sure how to tell if their post is being personally abusive, the word 'YOU' is a dead giveaway.

I pity the torrent of abuse that's likely to follow.

[*Bob*]

That's interesting.. There are, of course, better loft conversions knocking around but I assumed it was only a matter of ? rather than planning, or ? and planning.

The thing about them is that it's hard to appreciate just how crap your loft conversion looks from within the boundaries of your own property. And seeing as most of the loft conversions you can see from boundary all look a bit duff anyway, you'll be buggered if you're going to spend more money making yours look any better when no-one else has.

[spark67]

We had the opposite problem when we cleared out our flat when we moved from Blackheath to Dulwich 3 years ago, we had a skip out the front and was fascinated by the people we saw rummaging around, they took half the stuff in it and it was all a load of tat, old clothes curtains broken china and appliances etc, one woman pulled up in a van, put on some marigold gloves and piled most of it in her van, it saved us getting another skip, we got to the stage where we would put stuff in and hide behind the blinds in the kitchen waiting for someone to come along, we didn't have a long wait, word must have got around, i felt like Bill Oddie on nature watch.