ED Picturehouse. Elitist*. (Louisa's lounged response)

[Louisa]

Had to say this. Peckhamplex is a bargain by London standards and great value for money. But, I find it disturbing that people are saying if you don't like what's on offer in ED go elsewhere. I don't understand this mentality. People live in ED and don't want to have to go miles out of our way just because everything locally is ridiculously priced. The same argument about the demise of Iceland is relevant here too. I do not for the life of me understand how people can say it's great to live in an edgy part of town, then be happy to pay 35 quid plus for a cinema ticket. It's segregating the community based on where they can afford to be entertained/shop/eat/drink etc. Peckham is less dangerous now that at any time in the last 35 years or so I would argue, nonetheless it's still a trek for people who may already be on a budget in ED.

Louisa.

[Jah Lush]

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It is not ?35 a ticket and Peckhamplex isn't miles out of anyone's way if they live in ED.

[Louisa]

Yes it is Jah. You're staying people are supposed to walk from ED to Peckham maybe with young kids or not in full health? It might be easy for some people but not everyone. It's the assumption that people should like it or lump it. Why should they? I apologise I thought someone said 35 or 25 or something in that range. Either way, it's a heck of a lot more than Peckhamplex.

The cinema isn't the cause, it's a symptom of a wider issue that's the point. End of.

Louisa.

[*Bob*]

load of old shit

[Louisa]

*Bob* I appreciate you're sarcasm as much as anyone, but you are clearly wrong on this one. Peckham is our neighbour, and yes people CAN go there if they want to, but that's not the point I am making. It's why should they have to?

Louisa.

[Alan Medic]

Jeez Louisa, if you want to argue about anything at least get your facts right. Someone wrote how expensive it was for two people to pay ?12.50 per ticket i.e ?25.00 for two tickets. Not ?35.00 per ticket. I haven't been to the new cinema as I rarely go to the cinema but I would go there as a treat as it IS LOCAL.

You might as well say that anyone in ED who has a car that's more than you or I could afford should go elsewhere as they are segregating the community.In 100 years 99% of the current ED community will be dead. Try living in the present as that's all you or I or anyone else has.

[Louisa]

Alan Medic I corrected myself on the pricing, but added the caveat that either way the new ED cinema is still more expensive than the Peckham one. On those figures MORE THAN DOUBLE what you'd pay in Peckham! Why should anything on our doorstep be seen as a treat? So do the fine folk of Peckham see their cinema as a treat too?

The point about the car isn't relevant. I'm referring to people who through no fault of their own are incapable or unable to go out of their way every time they want to treat themselves. I didn't say the cinema was segregating the community, they are here to run a business, simple as that. But all the hype and nonsense that's gone on over the last decade and a half has allowed us to get to this point. I remember the old Odeon on Grove Vale, that was never overpriced. Granted it was some years ago, but if anything that further validates my point about not everyone being able to participate in the new retail and entertainment offerings of ED due to pricing.

Louisa.

[KidKruger]

If you wanna go to ED cinema it's ?x.

If you wanna go to Peckham cinema it's ?y.

Your choice.

[*Bob*]

Louisa Wrote:

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I remember the old Odeon on Grove

> Vale, that was never overpriced. Granted it was

> some years ago

was that in 1952?

Have you seen the new Odeons? They're all over the country, across the land. In fancy places and shitholes alike.

They charge ?11.. or is it a bit more (?) So that's ... a full quid less than picturehouse. One pound.

Peckham is piss cheap! Not indicative of average cinema pricing almost everywhere else in the UK.

LOAD OF OLD SHIT

[Alan Medic]

Or something like that is hardly a correction Louisa. Basically you couldn't be bothered to read the original post and bailed in with nonsense. The reason something on your doorstep may be seen as a treat is it might be something you wouldn't normally consider within your budget. We all have budgets, just some have bigger ones than others.Bit like cars really.

It just sounds like you are jealous. Are all the better off folk of ED nasty people? If you think so you should move elsewhere. It's a bit of earth on a small planet in a huge universe.

[Jah Lush]

What *Bob* and Alan said.

[Louisa]

Yes we do Alan, but the budget of ED shouldn't have to be different to the budget of Peckham. That's my point. A neighbourhood starts off as 'x' becomes 'y' - and so those who've lived in 'x' before it became 'u' now must go elsewhere (despite maybe not being able to) just because 'x' can become (for arguments sake) 'xy'. It's all a unnecessary nonsense.

No one is being jealous here or calling people nasty or better or whatever. It's just an observation that not all businesses have to leave an area which remains a fair mixed community still. LL doesn't any longer accommodate for all those tastes in the surrounding roads, only some of them.

Louisa.

[Louisa]

My spelling is shocking tonight. Sorry.

Louisa.

[Alan Medic]

When I was younger the cinema in my home town had a space between the front row seats and the screen, which was filled with wooden benches for those who couldn't afford the normal price. If space is tight maybe they could remove some seats in the picturehouse to facilitate the less well off residents.

[KidKruger]

We don't want riff-raff in our cinema, so sod the benches idea.

[TheCat]

Louisa....long time listener, rare caller. I like to be fair and hear you out.

But seriously, it's a pound more expensive than odeon at Surrey quays or streatham......

That's the pound you saved at Iceland vs sainsbury a.....

[LadyDeliah]

KidKruger Wrote:

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> We don't want riff-raff in our cinema, so sod the

> benches idea.

Lol, and as a Peckhamplex patron, can we introduce a test to determine whether the hopeful entrants of said fine establishment know the proper meaning of words such as 'blud', 'shank' and 'ratchet ho' so we can keep the twats out?

[Loz]

LadyDeliah Wrote:

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> KidKruger Wrote:

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> > We don't want riff-raff in our cinema, so sod

> the

> > benches idea.

>

>

> Lol, and as a Peckhamplex patron, can we introduce a test to determine whether the hopeful entrants

> of said fine establishment know the proper meaning of words such as 'blud', 'shank' and 'ratchet ho'

> so we can keep the twats out?

I was refused entry to the Peckhample as I failed to use 'innit' correctly in a sentence when challenged. Wasn't my fault - I thought they said 'Inuit' and I started chatting about Eskimos.

[LadyDeliah]

There is no excuse for such lazy translation Loz. An admission to knowing that Inuit has anything to do with Eskimos, should have resulted in a lifetime ban in any case!

[edhistory]

Loz Wrote:

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>

> I was refused entry to the Peckhample as I failed

> to use 'innit' correctly in a sentence when

> challenged. Wasn't my fault - I thought they said

> 'Inuit' and I started chatting about Eskimos.

Loz needs to read a little about "inuit" and "eskimos".

[Loz]

edhistory Wrote:

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> Loz Wrote:

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> >

> > I was refused entry to the Peckhample as I

> failed

> > to use 'innit' correctly in a sentence when

> > challenged. Wasn't my fault - I thought they

> said

> > 'Inuit' and I started chatting about Eskimos.

>

> Loz needs to read a little about "inuit" and "eskimos".

And to think I accused you yesterday of having no sense of humour...

[LadyDeliah]

Yeh Loz, cos you're too dumb to know Inuits are a type of what is generically known as Eskimo, innit fam?

But firing squad for you edhistory!

[bobbsy]

The picturehouse is overpriced. Thats tourist leicester square type prices. Uncalled for.

[Baggs]

If Picturehouse charged ?5 then you very soon wouldn't have a cinema in East Dulwich.

Cinemas are expensive. They are also expensive to run, and the margins on films are tight. The margins on popcorn and drinks are huge, and this is where Cinemas make the money. Picturehouse add a bar, restaurant and the regular stream of membership income to this and therefore can offer a slightly wider variety of films - not just those that rely on a popcorn-guzzling blockbuster crowd.

The PeckhamPlex is an outlier for ticket prices, not worth comparing anything to it. They too make their margins on the food and drink. By getting lots of people in the door they sell more of it. I imagine their rent per/m2 is also very low for a cinema. Their projection is fairly shoddy - and imagine they therefore don't have to pay back as much in VPF as a more expensive 4K projection system in use at picturehouse.

[Earl Aelfheah]

There is already a thread on this in the Main section. Let's not recreate it here.