Mandy & Andy.........

[woofmarkthedog]

Lord Mandleson on the Andrew Marr show.

Quite composed I thought, witty & in control bar the slip of the tongue

A man walking to the gallows or a pig in s*it?

Discuss

[Tony.London Suburbs]

A thoroughly enjoyable 20 minutes.

Love him or hate him, Mandy is a great asset to The Labour Party.

[LegalEagle-ish]

He's bloody good at his job. Thought i saw him lining himself up to take over tho! Do you think he'll do a Brutus?

[Michael Palaeologus]

Cant see a member of the House of Lords being able to become PM in the 21st Century.

It sounds like the Labour party has accepted defeat in the next election, barring a miracle. So why change leader now? Let Gordon limp on to electoral defeat, use him as a scape goat for all the Party's ills and get rid of him. Then stand back for an almighty cat fight between the Blairites and the Brownites which may take years to finish.

[woofmarkthedog]

LegalEagle-ish Wrote:

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> He's bloody good at his job. Thought i saw him

> lining himself up to take over tho! Do you think

> he'll do a Brutus?

No in a word, but he would technically be very good. It must be frustrating for him to see GoBro as a character in charege, ToBla was so much (love/hate him)better, I mean he had the 'schtick" required, the patter as such. It's like having your uncle in charge here, we know he means well but sh*t he's dull, dull, dull.

[Mick Mac]

I can't see Labour accepting defeat at the next election being a good move Michael - it might be at least 2 terms before they get in again if the tories ride the upturn in the economy.

If I were them I'd pursue a change of leader now and hope for signs of a quick pick up in the economy before the next election. They might have an outside chnace of getting in again with a new leader but no chance with Brown after this weeks events.

[Tony.London Suburbs]

Mick Mac Wrote:

If I were them I'd pursue a change of leader now....

Do you mind keeping your views to yourself Michael, my boy.

Some of us have just backed Gordon Brown on Betfair at 130/1...to be the Leader of The Labour Party at the next Election..:)-D

[Mick Mac]

Whao - those are good odds TLS. Good luck with that one.

[????]

no way Tony, he's nothing like that

[????]

if he goes, he goes in days and he's 3ish to go in June

The favourite on Betfair is him to go Jan-June (ie after an election) next year about 2s

I'm gonna lay him for this month

[Tony.London Suburbs]

???? Wrote:

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> no way Tony, he's nothing like that

Market Selection Type Bet ID Bet

placed Odds

req. Stake

(?) Liability

(?) Avg. odds

matched Date

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UK / Next General Election / Party Leaders Brown only Back 8167580198 07-Jun-09

10:41 130 2.00 130 07-Jun-09 10:41

[Tony.London Suburbs]

Mick Mac Wrote:

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> Whao - those are good odds TLS. Good luck with

> that one.

I suspect someone's made a rick, Mick!

He only has to be the next Labour Leader at The next General Election.

Shame there was only ?2 available..

[Marmora Man]

Mandelson - a consumate dissembler who only ever answers the question he wanted to be asked and not the question asked. Does that make a good politician or a cynical liar?

Thought the interview was a score draw and would love to have heard what was said between Andy & Mandy once the microphones were switched off. Andrew Marr is a left leaning journalist - he tried to get Mandelson to acknowledge the reported levels of frustration and anger within the Cabinet, PLP and wider party. I think though, in his heart, he knew even before the interview started that he would not lay a real glove on him.

[HonaloochieB]

I doubt Brown will be replaced as leader before the next election, no matter what individual party members might think of him. Another leader? Too much political grist to the other party's mills I'd think.

I reckon they'll butch it out with crossed fingers and hope that things can only get better that can be taken credit for at the next election.

But whatever happens, political pundits/experts/soothsayers both amateur and professional will constantly change their predictions/forecasts/guesses to suit the circumstances before the next election.

And won't they be lucky that for the most part, that we don't remember their steely-eyed predictions of what should/could/will be done every week until the 'fish and chip paper' day. Unless we have Private Eye to remind us.

As William Goldman said about people who claimed to be able to predict trends in the film industry 'Nobody KNOWS anything'

[EDOldie]

LegalEagle-ish Wrote:

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> He's bloody good at his job. Thought i saw him

> lining himself up to take over tho! Do you think

> he'll do a Brutus?

MP wtote: Cant see a member of the House of Lords being able to become PM in the 21st Century.

Be wonderfully ironic if a peer became leader of the Labour don't you think?

[????]

well they're half the cabinet now.........Labour gives about as much of a shit about democracy as the tories...they are a fookin' shower and sadly that's a major reason we'll have a BNP MP in Brussels tomorrow

[EDOldie]

Democracy isn't very good for politicians it seems

[SteveT]

Democracy is not very good for running the country either.

Unless we have suddenly been dealt a load of rubbishy and crooked

politicians,

and bankers,

and their legalwatchdogs.

I do hope this little post is not too controversial for the staunch believers of the system.