Labour Leadership

[Ridgley]

otta wrote

"an apologist for Putin as the whole left now seems to be"

He does not put up with any shit like Cameron does Barack Obama just click his fingers and Britain comes a running.

[Loz]

I have to say, Corbyn was far more effective today, now he's dropped the 'ask the people' stunt. (Though the two tory questions taking the piss out of it was amusing.)

Corbyn's calm approach worked quite well and, with a meaty issue like tax credits, it meant he could doggedly re-ask questions of Cameron.

[Ridgley]

Cameron liar liar his pants is definitely on fire :)

[Loz]

PMQ day. This week Corbyn was pretty boring. Tried to re-use last week's successful tactic (indeed, the exact same question), but Cameron was far too streetwise to get cornered twice. He then tried to use public questions again, and that was as ineffective as the first time. He really needed to push Cameron on the growing junior doctors debacle, but it was only vaguely touched upon.

Tom Watson had a poppy this week, but the real scene-stealer was the woman sitting behind Angela Eagle, who seemed to be sporting a orange and black version of the Mr Blobby outfit.

[Earl Aelfheah]

The media's treatment of Corbyn has got absolutely surreal. I thought this article sums it up quite well http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/saying-that-jeremy-corbyn-didn-t-bow-during-remembrance-sunday-isn-t-lying-it-s-even-worse-than-that-a6727106.html

[DaveR]

There have been a load of really stupid stories, and the 'not bowing' one was just the most recent. To be fair though, there have been plenty of serious articles about Corbyn and the bizarre position the Labour Party is now in, where half the front bench disagree openly with the leader on core policies. Corbyn supporters have been branding every negative story a smear, and that's not accurate either.

[Earl Aelfheah]

@DaveR - sure, that's of course true, but regardless of what one might think of Corbyn, some sections of the media seem to have completely jumped the shark. I heard someone on LBC calling for Corbyn to the charged with treason in all seriousness. It's quite breathtaking.

[DaveR]

LBC + Daily Mail = nutter central

[????]

The targeting of Corybyn by the Sun/Mail etc is completley counterproductive as people start to ignore it all and even symptahise with him, understandably so

You really don't have to look very far for idiocy in terms of his policies and appointments to date rather than his personality, so why the mail etc are going for the Poppy/Bowing non (made up) -story is beyond me

[JohnL]

Just shows how all politicians have been the same.

Where's that lying app :)

[numbers]

Completely agree quids. I switched the TV on to see a bit of the ceremony and I didn't think he was disprespectful at all (not that that's why I watched it)!

Trust the bloody media to turn it into an "issue" about Corbyn bowing/not bowing FFS. That's showing disrespect in itself. Look at his pixies. There's enough fodder there for people to debate.

[Loz]

rahrahrah Wrote:

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> I heard someone on LBC calling for Corbyn to the charged with treason in all

> seriousness. It's quite breathtaking.

Someone in the Guardian called for that General who criticised Corbyn's stand on using Trident to be charged with treason. Stupidity is everywhere.

[Otta]

numbers Wrote:

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> Trust the bloody media to turn it into an "issue"

> about Corbyn bowing/not bowing FFS. That's showing

> disrespect in itself.

EXACTLY!!! If they are so concerned about respecting our fallen / veterans, then why would they completely take the limelight from them on this day and divert everyone's attention towards Corbyn. Stupid hypocritical twunts.

[JohnL]

Loz Wrote:

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> rahrahrah Wrote:

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> > I heard someone on LBC calling for Corbyn to the

> charged with treason in all

> > seriousness. It's quite breathtaking.

>

> Someone in the Guardian called for that General

> who criticised Corbyn's stand on using Trident to

> be charged with treason. Stupidity is everywhere.

Corbyn said he won't, Cameron says he would. Blair needed a replacement button.

It really doesn't matter - you can never know what they'd really do.

[BrandNewGuy]

Loz Wrote:

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> Someone in the Guardian called for that General

> who criticised Corbyn's stand on using Trident to

> be charged with treason. Stupidity is everywhere.

Well, it used to be a cast-iron rule that serving soldiers do not take overtly political stances or publicly attempt to affect policy, Here's one aimed at Cameron:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34759339

Treason may be harsh, but it's a very serious constitutional matter that serving men and women do not use their position to publicly engage in politics.

[Earl Aelfheah]

Loz, its really not a party political point. The medias treatment of Corbyn is getting absurd for all to see, regardless of what one might think of the man.

[Jah Lush]

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag237/jahlushhead/11693919_10153776302366457_1183705154823097011_n_zpsggeyl822.jpg

[Loz]

rahrahrah Wrote:

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> Loz, its really not a party political point. The medias treatment of Corbyn is getting absurd for

> all to see, regardless of what one might think of the man.

Ummm... I never said otherwise.

[Ridgley]

No matter what comrade corbyn does he still gets a kicking poor soul

[Mick Mac]

The media fear him getting into power, a bit like they feared Kinnock getting into power

[JohnL]

Mick Mac Wrote:

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> The media fear him getting into power, a bit like

> they feared Kinnock getting into power

Kinnock did very well for himself in the end (via Europe)

[Mick Mac]

Indeed - it was anti labour paranoia at the time.

[????]

Corbyn's utterly predictable at best naive but in reality sanctimonious, 'virtuous' guff response to the killing of jihadi John today followed by tonight's hideous events in Paris tell me all I need to know about his suitability as a leader of anything but a fringe lefty pressure group. God help us all if he's ever in charge.

[Mick Mac]

Soft "liberal" politicians are only ever taken advantage of.

[????]

Corbyn isn't soft or liberal he's a lefty whose anti-western ideology was fairly harmless when he was a fringe lefty idiot. This bloke is leader of the Labour Party though unbelievably.