Plastic bag free day In Dulwich (Saturday 12th)

[monica]

Hi all

East Dulwich SNUB are holding a plastic bag free day In East Dulwich/Dulwich on Saturday the 12th September. We would love the locals, shoppers, retailers and visitors to take part on that day by not accepting or using plastic bags. We have a number of events going on along the lane, which include giving away free cloth bags in Healthmatters and other stores, participating stores will be confirmed this week. Marilyn my fellow Snubber will be making free cloth bags to give away outside Healthmatters. We are waiting on confirmation from Veolia, if they will be giving away their shopper bags. Southwark council will also be present raising awareness of PBF day. Surburban pirate will be providing the entertainment with music from their witty collection of ditties, and Pia Randall Goddard from the skip sisters will be making purses and bags from old plastic bags.

Plastic bag free day is held in Support of the International Plastic bag free day, so please show us your support East Dulwich by saying no to plastic bags.

Thanks

Monica

ED SNUB

www.eastdulwichsnub.co.uk

[Ladymuck]

monica Wrote:

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> Hi all

> East Dulwich SNUB are holding a plastic bag free

> day In East Dulwich/Dulwich on Saturday the 12th

> September. We would love the locals, shoppers,

> retailers and visitors to take part on that day by

> not accepting or using plastic bags. We have a

> number of events going on along the lane, which

> include giving away free cloth bags in

> Healthmatters and other stores, participating

> stores will be confirmed this week. Marilyn my

> fellow Snubber will be making free cloth bags to

> give away outside Healthmatters. We are waiting on

> confirmation from Veolia, if they will be giving

> away their shopper bags. Southwark council will

> also be present raising awareness of PBF day.

> Surburban pirate will be providing the

> entertainment with music from their witty

> collection of ditties, and Pia Randall Goddard

> from the skip sisters will be making purses and

> bags from old plastic bags.

> Plastic bag free day is held in Support of the

> International Plastic bag free day, so please show

> us your support East Dulwich by saying no to

> plastic bags.

> Thanks

> Monica

> ED SNUB

> www.eastdulwichsnub.co.uk

Will do...+ big round of applause to you for your public services...(BTW I now have some 5 million seeds packed in 20s in recycled envelopes for your other project...when/where do you want them?)

[SteveT]

Put them in plastic bags for safety;-)

[Ladymuck]

SteveT Wrote:

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> Put them in plastic bags for safety;-)

Oh that is BAD...SO bad...(giggling and covering mouth so can't be heard by Monica;-))

[monica]

Lo very funny Steve>:D< Lady Muck the Composting scheme is now in the early day stage, you can give me the seeds I will store them away. ( I have some merchandise for you at the back of my car;-))

x

[northlondoner]

Free plastic bag day? Where can i pick mine up?

[monica]

Hi

I can now confirm Greetings, Roullier White, East Dulwich Deli, Chener Books are all taking part and will be giving out Cloth bags with purchases,If you would like a free cloth or reusable bag, please go along to Veolia to claim your bag or pop into Healthmatters

Thanks

/www.mcsuk.org/

www.mcsuk.org/support/how-to-help/join+mcs

www.groups.google.co.uk/group/plasticbagfree

www.eastdulwichsnub.co.uk

[star9687]

Hi there i was just wondering will there be any more of the original snub bags given out at this event because we didnt recieve one!!!!

[Sue]

I have seen them in the window of one of the estate agents in Lordship Lane recently - the one between Iceland and William Rose. That's where I got mine originally, so I guess they still have some left if you go in and ask?

[karter]

Looks like from another thread that Reggie and his band will be singing outside Somerfields from 12pm today as part of the International plastic bag free day and dishing out cloth shopping bags.

[iaineasy]

I saw someone with a snub bag the other day and wondered where i can get one??

[karter]

Acorn on LL had stacks of these. Try them.

[HonaloochieB]

iaineasy Wrote:

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> I saw someone with a snub bag the other day and

> wondered where i can get one??

By all means fill your boots Ian. It'll make you like a girl, though. A casual/scruffy dressed one.

But, hey live like you wanna live, brother.

[iaineasy]

hey you didn't know that i am called mandy at weekends, I thought everyone knew.

[Mick Mac]

Any excuse for a bit of Barry Manilow

PS - I did not use a single plastic bag today.

[iaineasy]

Any excuse for a bit of Barry Manilow

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oh mick mac oh you came and you gave me a turkey............ but then you took it awaaaaay!!!

I have been using the same five or six bags in my kitchen draw since i moved in two weeks ago, they are getting a bit tatty, I need a snub bag for sure!

[lard]

Wouldn't the most green thing be to re-use an existing poly bag.

That way, you don't use energy in fabricating a new cloth bag. For example, how did the cloth get to you?

By re-using a poly bag you are using and not throwing away something that already exists in the world.

Or doesn't that fit with the image??

[monica]

Lard, I see your point, however if you look at how much oil and energy used in the plastics industry then in contrast using a cloth bag in comparison costs nothing. I returned from my hols this morning and I heard Plastic bag free day went really well, hopefully the message will get across that a drop in the ocean (not using plastic bags) will cause a ripple effect, locally, nationally, globally.

[Ladymuck]

monica Wrote:

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> Lard, I see your point, however if you look at how

> much oil and energy used in the plastics industry

> then in contrast using a cloth bag in comparison

> costs nothing. I returned from my hols this

> morning and I heard Plastic bag free day went

> really well, hopefully the message will get across

> that a drop in the ocean (not using plastic bags)

> will cause a ripple effect, locally, nationally,

> globally.

That's the spirit Monica! Glad to see you've lost none of it whilst away. Welcome back - hope you had a nice time...now what were you on about?...

[lard]

monica Wrote:

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> Lard, I see your point, however if you look at how

> much oil and energy used in the plastics industry

> then in contrast using a cloth bag in comparison

> costs nothing. I returned from my hols this

> morning and I heard Plastic bag free day went

> really well, hopefully the message will get across

> that a drop in the ocean (not using plastic bags)

> will cause a ripple effect, locally, nationally,

> globally.

Poly bags is a tiny part of the plastics industry.

Cloth bags are a tiny part of the cloth industry.

Both use energy. The cotton doesn't magically get picked, weaved, distributed to you, the bag fabricated etc.

I would hazard a guess that a poly bag actually uses less energy in production, as it is quicker to make and lighter to transport.

Both can be re-used, both get put in landfill at the end of their life.

You should be saying "re-use" not "don't use".

It's as misguided as people saying buy a new Prius or G-Whizz car. The energy to produce these new cars far outweighs any fuel savings over using an existing old Ford Fiesta.

Similarly, not having kids is the most green thing you can do, as over the course of a life we consume an incredible amount, but I don't see anyone on Lordship Lane promoting "Kid Free Day"!

Still, if it makes you happy, enjoy!

[Jeremy]

Lard, I wouldn't be surprised if your theory was true.

However, plastic bags don't last as long. Bog-standard plastic bags would surely break after a few uses, and even a Sainsburys "bag for life" in practise only lasts a couple of months. I think cloth bags - or some sort of jute/hessian - would last a lot longer. But by all means keep those plastic bags for as long as they're in tact.

[Ted Max]

The production and use of plastic bags has little impact in terms of climate change. And taxing them has been shown to lead to an increase in the production of heavier plastic, as sales of bin-liners rise accordingly.

But they are an environmental blight in other ways. They look terrible as litter reducing our overall quality of life, and endanger marine animals especially.

So - we should use less of them, but not kid ourselves it's for climate change reasons, unless we tie that reduction to a campaign looking at overall consumption. ie It's not the bag, it's what's in the bag.

[Jeremy]

Ted Max Wrote:

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> taxing them

> has been shown to lead to an increase in the

> production of heavier plastic, as sales of

> bin-liners rise accordingly.

I heard a while ago that this happened in Ireland. But when I posted it on here, someone was quite abusive towards me...

[SeanMacGabhann]

Just back from a week in Ireland and observing shopping habits around me I can't say I saw a rise in heavier plastic bags

Quick question to my family in Cork backs this up

I did see a lot of cardboard boxes and brown paper bags tho - this strikes me as aesthetically better if nothing else

Does it help combat global warming? Even if proven to have effectively zero contribution, people who don't use plastic bags on principle are informing the powers that be (govt, suppliers, supermarkets) that behaviour can be changed if only leadership grasped the nettle on some of the bigger issues

No doubt it is posturing by some people but so what?

[Ted Max]

There are no official government stats on it, because they weren't keeping count of the sales of bin bags, not surprisingly, prior to introducing the tax. But retailers have reported the rise.

http://www.cga.ct.gov/2008/rpt/2008-R-0685.htm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/aug/11/plastic-bags-welsh-assembly