woofmarkthedog Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 RosieH Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Are you having an aneurysm?-------------------------------------------------Oh If only ! ( sounds like he's been reading the Daily "you know what" ) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/7947-changing-names/page/2/#findComment-247881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony.London Suburbs Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 The Chair Wrote:Time to move this to the Lounge - which means I may ask, what became of Constantinople, butt of schoolboy jokes?Sadly it is no longer a Turkish Delight, Chair.The city of Constantinople "Fell" in 1453...:-$Which beggars two seperate questions.Firstly: When DID you go to School Chair? Obviously it was sometime before 1453, that I do know.:-$Secondly: What became of Turkish Del...no, don't worry about the second part...;-)At least now we know that you are nearly as old as Methalusah, then that would explain your infinite sage advice and wisdom... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/7947-changing-names/page/2/#findComment-247883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santerme Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 "Why did Constantinople get the works....that's nobodies business but the Turks"I have no idea about Basle, but it has a great Zoo! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/7947-changing-names/page/2/#findComment-247896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keef Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Therefore, people from Pakistan or Bangladesh might not like being called "Indian" either.Quite. However, I met with a guy the other day, who was born in what is now Pakistan, but what was then India (I think he was born in 1946, a year before Pakistan existed, if I remember correctly), but he still wanted to be called Indian.Just one persona obviously, but I found it interesting. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/7947-changing-names/page/2/#findComment-247905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Ermmmm?. Are none of you aware of one of the most significant post colonial events to have happened last century, the formation of the state of Pakistan?Areas which became Pakistan in 1957 (?) used to be part of British India. The people from these areas were therefore all colloquially known as Indian but folks slowly started to realise that referring to them as such was in fact incorrect. So the collective became Asian. Funnily enough the colloquialism ?Asian? is still incorrect. As in Britain it refers to people from the Indian sub-continent, Sri Lanka etc. and sometimes even Asia Minor. However Oriental people, the Mongolians and the many peoples of Serbia are also technically Asian. Simples no? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/7947-changing-names/page/2/#findComment-247932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Max Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Ermmmm?. Are none of you aware of one of the most significant post colonial events to have happened last century, the formation of the state of Pakistan? What makes you think they're not aware of it?Pakistan was formed as an independent state in 1947, by the way. But you knew this, what with it being one of the most significant etc etc... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/7947-changing-names/page/2/#findComment-247936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 I think we also know that Asia doesn't just include the Indian sub-continent. It's just that the word "Asian" has that connotation in the UK.In other parts of the world, the term "Asian" implies eastern Asia - which is equally inaccurate.Also in America, describing someone as "Oriental" is seen as pretty offensive... not sure why... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/7947-changing-names/page/2/#findComment-247944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Well I?m sure people are aware of it somewhere in the back of their consciousness? but not sure why it isn?t just the obvious reason why people in Britain would start to make the change from the using the term Indian to using the term Asian. Can?t blame me for getting frustrated when peoples? view points are so frustratingly insular that they genuinely don?t even know the distinction between Britain and the UK. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/7947-changing-names/page/2/#findComment-247951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keef Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Pakistan was formed as an independent state in 1947, by the way. But you knew this, what with it being one of the most significant etc etc...LOL, Sorry Brendan, but Ted beat me to it. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/7947-changing-names/page/2/#findComment-247955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 I think there are other reasons, apart from the creation of modern day Pakistan. Increaed immigration, travel, global awareness, increased prominence of Asian countries, etc. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/7947-changing-names/page/2/#findComment-247958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Max Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Well I?m sure people are aware of it somewhere in the back of their consciousness? but not sure why it isn?t just the obvious reason why people in Britain would start to make the change from the using the term Indian to using the term Asian.I suspect most people thought it was so obvious it didn't need pointing out (Sorry SteveT). Also, it was pointed out, as was the Britain/UK distinction.But if it suits you that we are all self-absorbed arseholes with the memory of a gnat, then so be it. It's getting a little wearing, though. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/7947-changing-names/page/2/#findComment-247960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Just imagine what it?s like for me! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/7947-changing-names/page/2/#findComment-247963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Max Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 I can't! I don't have the requisite historical or cultural perspective! Who are you again? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/7947-changing-names/page/2/#findComment-247966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Typical! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/7947-changing-names/page/2/#findComment-247968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 I wouldn?t take it personally Ted. I am a victim of socially enforced misanthropy, it stems from feelings of social alienation during childhood caused either by feeling distinct from the herd and/or everyone being a cunt. One of the consequences is, "high sounding language unsupported by dignity of thought" which according to the BBC is the rather poetic way Samuel Johnson described the term Rant in his Dictionary. So as you can see I actually suffer from a misunderstood condition which is unfairly persecuted due to public misunderstanding. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/7947-changing-names/page/2/#findComment-247980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Max Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 What a terrible thing to live with. And the worst is, you can tell nobody as nobody will understand.I think the only course left open to you is to construct a vast underground lair, staff it with easily expendable henchmen and willing female assassins, and then let events take their course. That will show them. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/7947-changing-names/page/2/#findComment-247988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keef Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Build it under nunhead, there are plenty of expendable people there! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/7947-changing-names/page/2/#findComment-247991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 As intriguing as your ideas are I have to admit I have been a right snarky bastard lately. I have noticed it myself. Not sure why. Something must be pissing me off. I?ll be sure to address it when I find out what it is. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/7947-changing-names/page/2/#findComment-247993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mockney piers Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Cider withdrawal? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/7947-changing-names/page/2/#findComment-248000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Probably, although the wife still wants to know why I was three sheets to the wind after only 2 hours in the pub the other week. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/7947-changing-names/page/2/#findComment-248008 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keef Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Age. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/7947-changing-names/page/2/#findComment-248032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 7.5% Cider more like. When did that change from Scrumpy to Organic West Country Cider? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/7947-changing-names/page/2/#findComment-248043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony.London Suburbs Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Anyone got a frigging clue what this thread is all about?Liechensteinians in the Principality of Andorra? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/7947-changing-names/page/2/#findComment-248050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muley Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 When it began being produced more economically in China, probably. Which reminds me, why did Peking become Beijing. Or Bombay become Mumbai? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/7947-changing-names/page/2/#findComment-248054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Don't get me started on Andrew Cole Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/7947-changing-names/page/2/#findComment-248083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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