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Tony.London Suburbs

Tony.London Suburbs

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The Chair Wrote:

Time to move this to the Lounge - which means I may ask, what became of Constantinople, butt of schoolboy jokes?


Sadly it is no longer a Turkish Delight, Chair.


The city of Constantinople "Fell" in 1453...:-$


Which beggars two seperate questions.


Firstly: When DID you go to School Chair?


Obviously it was sometime before 1453, that I do know.:-$


Secondly: What became of Turkish Del...no, don't worry about the second part...;-)


At least now we know that you are nearly as old as Methalusah, then that would explain your infinite sage advice and wisdom...

Keef

Keef

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Therefore, people from Pakistan or Bangladesh might not like being called "Indian" either.


Quite. However, I met with a guy the other day, who was born in what is now Pakistan, but what was then India (I think he was born in 1946, a year before Pakistan existed, if I remember correctly), but he still wanted to be called Indian.


Just one persona obviously, but I found it interesting.

Brendan

Brendan

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Ermmmm?. Are none of you aware of one of the most significant post colonial events to have happened last century, the formation of the state of Pakistan?


Areas which became Pakistan in 1957 (?) used to be part of British India. The people from these areas were therefore all colloquially known as Indian but folks slowly started to realise that referring to them as such was in fact incorrect. So the collective became Asian.


Funnily enough the colloquialism ?Asian? is still incorrect. As in Britain it refers to people from the Indian sub-continent, Sri Lanka etc. and sometimes even Asia Minor. However Oriental people, the Mongolians and the many peoples of Serbia are also technically Asian.


Simples no?

Ted Max

Ted Max

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Ermmmm?. Are none of you aware of one of the most significant post colonial events to have happened last century, the formation of the state of Pakistan?


What makes you think they're not aware of it?


Pakistan was formed as an independent state in 1947, by the way. But you knew this, what with it being one of the most significant etc etc...

Jeremy

Jeremy

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I think we also know that Asia doesn't just include the Indian sub-continent. It's just that the word "Asian" has that connotation in the UK.


In other parts of the world, the term "Asian" implies eastern Asia - which is equally inaccurate.


Also in America, describing someone as "Oriental" is seen as pretty offensive... not sure why...

Brendan

Brendan

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Well I?m sure people are aware of it somewhere in the back of their consciousness? but not sure why it isn?t just the obvious reason why people in Britain would start to make the change from the using the term Indian to using the term Asian.


Can?t blame me for getting frustrated when peoples? view points are so frustratingly insular that they genuinely don?t even know the distinction between Britain and the UK.

Ted Max

Ted Max

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Well I?m sure people are aware of it somewhere in the back of their consciousness? but not sure why it isn?t just the obvious reason why people in Britain would start to make the change from the using the term Indian to using the term Asian.


I suspect most people thought it was so obvious it didn't need pointing out (Sorry SteveT). Also, it was pointed out, as was the Britain/UK distinction.


But if it suits you that we are all self-absorbed arseholes with the memory of a gnat, then so be it. It's getting a little wearing, though.

Brendan

Brendan

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I wouldn?t take it personally Ted. I am a victim of socially enforced misanthropy, it stems from feelings of social alienation during childhood caused either by feeling distinct from the herd and/or everyone being a cunt.


One of the consequences is, "high sounding language unsupported by dignity of thought" which according to the BBC is the rather poetic way Samuel Johnson described the term Rant in his Dictionary.


So as you can see I actually suffer from a misunderstood condition which is unfairly persecuted due to public misunderstanding.

Ted Max

Ted Max

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What a terrible thing to live with. And the worst is, you can tell nobody as nobody will understand.


I think the only course left open to you is to construct a vast underground lair, staff it with easily expendable henchmen and willing female assassins, and then let events take their course. That will show them.

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