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In the winter, Young's Winter Warmer. Only available in very selected pubs, mostly in south London. And only in winter.


For bottled, Young's Double Chocolate.


For a general run-around beer that's widely available, London Pride.


For a cheap beer you can take home in quantity (polypins and larger) for a right royal piss-up, visit Rebellion Brewery in Marlow and stock up. Even better, join their club and get free access to their regular all-night free beer event for four people. Plus a discount on all beer. You can een stand around 'sampling' the different beers all day any day. Rebellion is owned by its workers, who are a lovely bunch of lads and very much into their beer.

Magpie Wrote:

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> Brendan - "Real" Ale should be cask conditioned

> and "live" ie un-pasturised so the yeast is still

> living.

>

> Any other non-lager Beers like John Smiths,

> Tetleys, Boddingtons etc is keg beer - ie

> pasturised beer.


I'm glad you've cleared that up. Keg beer = piss.

Bit of a random question- but does anyone have any experience of brewing beer? I have done it a couple of times using kits, but never from first principles, but have toyed for a while with the idea of starting an East Dulwich Micro Brewery. Anyone fancy joining a collective to start brewing our own beer - we could have a first meeting in Hoopers to plan - and then start selling it through local pubs/shops?


Have I just got over excited by all this chat on beer . . . . .

"Bit of a random question- but does anyone have any experience of brewing beer?"


My dad and his friends used to brew beer with variable success. I don't have clue how it's done but they had a lot more success with Cider. Brewing beer at home can be an incredibly tiresome experience if you've got a household of energetic kids who're curious as to what all the pipes and pots are in the basement.

Funnily enough I was thinking about giving it a go recently. My mum grows hops up in bedfordshire (she makes sleep pillows out of them) and it set me thinking.


Last time I gave it a go I was in the sixth form. We bought a lager kit and a bitter kit. The bitter turned out as this foul stenched unpotable cloudy foamy slop.

The lager was a crisp blonde fizzy foul stenched unpotable brew. I guess that counts as varying success.

Let me know what would be involved.

You can all thank me (and my dad) for this when the final product is finished.


In his email he say's that before you even buy any equipment, which in his opinion isn't a touch on the gear available 10-15 years ago, you should extensively read up on the what type of ale/cider you're attempting.


The information you're going to need can be found in "The Camra Guide To Home Brewing". For a paper back this is quite expensive at ?40 but according to my old man it's worth it's weight in gold and would make a great gift to an interested/enthusiastic son. It's got everything you need to know. He's stopped brewing his own because, and you should beware of this, my mum has now forbidden it due to the stench it can give off.


He also says that from speaking to friends who make their own Cider then it's best to stick to the medieval recipe's.


Take this advice as you will, but I've never done it before so it's second-hand info.

I remember a friend of mine made home brew back in the late 70s. He'd put six times the amount of sugar in and after two or three pints of this incredibly strong undrinkable piss you'd be rendered unconscious. I missed half of the 1978 World Cup final because that. Bar steward!

What sane person would want to brew their own beer? The alcohol/liquid ratio makes no sense whatsoever.


The last person I met who 'brewed his own' looked like he hasn't had a wash for four months there appeared to be something very much like a frog nesting in his beard. And his house stank like a carpet after a teenage party.


There were a few attempts at winemaking in the *Bob* senior household, but it all came to an end after my brother (aged ten or eleven) secretly helped himself to the Blackberry and Damson on bonfire night and nearly fell into the fire.

That's nothing *Bob*! You should've seen the look on BBW seniors face after he asked us what we were all whispering about.


"What are you lot up to?"


"Nothing. We just thought we'd help out with your experiment in the cellar."


"How?"


"We took the rubber tube out of the steel drum and plugged it into a different hole."


"How long have they been like that?!!"


"About 2 days."


"Lin!! You and the boys get down the garden NOW!!!!!!"

*Bob* Wrote:


> There were a few attempts at winemaking in the

> *Bob* senior household, but it all came to an end

> after my brother (aged ten or eleven) secretly

> helped himself to the Blackberry and Damson on

> bonfire night and nearly fell into the fire.


Oh that is so The Good Life *Bob*. Does Margo live nextdoor?

I know the stereotypes of real ales fans - but this is time to break down the barriers and turn real ale trendy. Its local, its organic, its sustainable, plus we could have some really cool bottles and serve over ice or something - soon everyone will be quaffing real ale and commenting on hoppyness and which beer goes well with butternut squash. Whose with me?????

Magpie Wrote:

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> this is time to break down the barriers and turn

> real ale trendy.. Whose with me?????


It doesn't need to be trendy.. it just needs to consistently taste nice.


Give me nice proper beer over tasteless lager anyday. Unfortunately (*south/north beer bore alert*) 'beer' in London is simply an embarrassment. Where else would you have to go to a SPECIAL PUB that you know about just to get something vaguely palatable, as opposed to walking into any pub you see and be presented with some delicious local brew as a matter of course?


That said, at least it doesn't rain every other day and you can understand what people are saying.

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