Stabbing at Kingsdale School

[Mrs TP]

It was the end of the day for Key Stage 3 pupils but lesson change for Key Stage 4 pupils, who have a later finish on Thursdays than the younger pupils.

I agree no school is 100% safe but they can constantly review procedures and implement new measures across the whole spectrum of their remit and share any positive recommendations with their peer school communities with a view to making all safer.

[tomskip]

Without being intrusive, it would be nice to know how the critically injured pupil is doing. I'm sure the school is learning every lesson possible.

[EDmummy]

Hopefully the learnings will be available to all schools. This awful event can happen anywhere (there was a terrible incident at a middle class Scottish school just a few months ago). Our young people are not immune to these terrible things where ever they go to school. Yes protect our school students but also teach them from a young age in order to prevent them thinking that "tooling up" is not a way for them to "protect" themselves. I dearly hope that the victims recover.

[apbremer]

The basic problem is that the little scumbag who did it will only get a slap on the wrist from the soppy judicial system. No deterrent or punishment. Ridiculous. The Bleeding Hearts have been running the asylum for too long.

[DaveR]

"The basic problem is that the little scumbag who did it will only get a slap on the wrist from the soppy judicial system. No deterrent or punishment. Ridiculous. The Bleeding Hearts have been running the asylum for too long"

It was only a matter of time before we had a genuinely insightful and expert view on what the "basic problem" is. Well done - the use of capitals for "Bleeding Hearts" is particularly persuasive.

PS elbow = arm joint, arse = bit for sitting on. Just in case you were unclear.

[robbin]

Wow - that last post was patronising - even by some EDF standards!

[JohnL]

apbremer Wrote:

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> The basic problem is that the little scumbag who

> did it will only get a slap on the wrist from the

> soppy judicial system. No deterrent or punishment.

> Ridiculous. The Bleeding Hearts have been running

> the asylum for too long.

Surely he's already remanded in custody - it's attempted murder.

This says so - until December 18th

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/dulwich-stabbing-boy-15-cries-in-court-after-being-accused-of-attempted-murder-over-double-knife-a3120071.html

He cried.

[DaveR]

"Wow - that last post was patronising - even by some EDF standards!"

Mea culpa.

If it is any consolation, I would have been equally scathing if someone had posted "the basic problem is that young people have no adequate means of self-expression; this would never have happened if more public money were available to support the exploration of teen identity crises through interpretive dance" - which is about as accurate.

[Andy_SE21]

Too bad. It is somehow scary. The thing is why would they do that?

[rabbitears]

apbremer Wrote:

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> The basic problem is that the little scumbag who

> did it will only get a slap on the wrist from the

> soppy judicial system. No deterrent or punishment.

Do you think little 14 year old knife carrying "scumbags" spend a lot of time analysing sentences handed down by Magistrates Courts? Do you think they're very susceptible to the deterrent effect of sentencing?

What recent sentences for knife crime are you aware of? (No after the fact internet searching allowed).

[uncleglen]

I would second exactly what apbremer said except for 'Bleeding Hearts' I would have use the original version of that cliche

[Blah Blah]

He won't get a slap on the wrist for this crime though. That's a myth. Violent crime has consequences whatever the age. It's for crimes like burglary that teenagers get non custodial punishment.

[JoeLeg]

apbremer Wrote:

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> The basic problem is that the little scumbag who

> did it will only get a slap on the wrist from the

> soppy judicial system. No deterrent or punishment.

> Ridiculous. The Bleeding Hearts have been running

> the asylum for too long.

- Nope, not worth it.

(Original post deleted. Edited because I can't be bothered to argue with idiocy like this.)

[JohnL]

Blah Blah Wrote:

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> He won't get a slap on the wrist for this crime

> though. That's a myth. Violent crime has

> consequences whatever the age. It's for crimes

> like burglary that teenagers get non custodial

> punishment.

Doing it in a school is an aggravating factor too IMHO.

He'll be named somewhere down the line too (Judge will allow it).

[uncleglen]

Yes, actually stabbing someone on school premises is very serious. At least one school I have worked in would NEVER involve the police in incidents involving stealing, drugs, and possession of weapons because the head believed that the school was the only place of safety for some of the pupils, from ALL of the outside world.....