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Local historian and author Brian Green, of Dulwich Village, will be giving a fascinating insight into the transformations of East Dulwich and Dulwich Village in the Victorian period at an illustrated talk at Dulwich Picture Gallery ? this Sunday, 22 November in aid of Dulwich Helpline. See more information at: http://dulwichonview.org.uk/2009/11/17/victorian-dulwich/ Anyone willing to go and give us a report back?

James Wrote:

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> Dulwich Village = The Daily Telegraph

> East Dulwich = The Observer



DV = NIMBYist Tories

ED = We'll be liberals until we sell this poky mid-terrace and move to Clapham like we've always dreamed of

I think you folks are missing the point of this thread. If I may refer you to the opening post, ?Local historian and author Brian Green, of Dulwich Village, will be giving a fascinating insight into the transformations of East Dulwich and Dulwich Village in the Victorian period?


It isn?t really to do with our employers not paying us enough to afford Georgian piles.

???? Wrote:

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> I have no intention of moving to Clapham...I would

> move to Dulwich Village if I had the moolah



So would you become slowly Tory in DV? (presuming you aren't currently)


Criminals have no-one else to blame for their behaviour, etc?

er, you like defining social attitudes/political views etc by entirely by postcodes? oh well


Nope, If a couple of million dropped my way I'd like a bigger house than the biggest in SE22 but would like to stay local as I've been round here for 25 years, so I'd look at Dulwich Village with it's wall to wall hangers and floggers....


Quite happy with SE22 and all its beardy lefties and guardian readers. Is that the SE22 Characteristic on your postcode socialmap thingy?

???? Wrote:

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> Quite happy with SE22 and all its beardy lefties

> and guardian readers. Is that the SE22

> Characteristic on your postcode socialmap thingy?



Sit in The Greyhound for 20 mins and look around you.

Brendan Wrote:

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> I think you folks are missing the point of this

> thread. If I may refer you to the opening post,

> ?Local historian and author Brian Green, of

> Dulwich Village, will be giving a fascinating

> insight into the transformations of East Dulwich

> and Dulwich Village in the Victorian period?

> It isn?t really to do with our employers not

> paying us enough to afford Georgian piles.


well spotted Brendan


This is some of the blurb just a click away...


Brian Green writes ?East Dulwich was transformed from a pleasant rural area of farmland and hedgerows, studded here and there by Georgian mansions each with attractive gardens and winding paths, into a maze of small streets made up of similar but not identical Victorian terraced villas ? and it all happened within the space of 25 years.

In and around Dulwich Village, the pace of change was slower. A handful of farms still supplied milk to local houses into the 20th Century and the area retained much of its open land, transformed from hay fields into playing fields. A wealthy elite built grandly on its surrounding hills, looked after by an army of domestic servants.

Separating these two diverse communities was the commercial thoroughfare of Lordship Lane with its early chain stores and providing the transport links which daily transported many of the new population by tram, or train to their offices in London?.

Brian Green, who has written and lectured extensively on Dulwich?s history for many years, will explain the causes and effects of this urbanisation.

Ted Max Wrote:

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> Local historian and author Brian Green, of Dulwich

> Village> BUT HE'LL BE BIASED!


No more than any other historian knowledgable about their home territory? :-

Brian Green, who has written and lectured extensively on Dulwich?s history for many years, will explain the causes and effects of this urbanisation.

Ted Max Wrote:

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> 'twas just a rubbish joke, Eileen.


Didn't seem rubbish - easily, given this Forum's psyche, it could have been a heart felt comment! The ? indicates a ... question anyway abt if he is or isn't biased... Maybe I am lacking in humour though I do laugh a lot on reading EDF posts.

???? Wrote:

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> So tell me about SE5, I used to live there. What

> were my politics and social attitues over that

> way, I'm buggered if I can remeber...or do I have

> to go and sit the Hermits Cave? Not a bad idea

> actually.



I think you were too busy sitting in traffic on the Walworth Road to think about politics.


But you'd come home knowing the Hermits Cave did a nice cheap pint of Guiness and was one of the better pubs in South London, I'd imagine,

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