Dry January..

[Otta]

Whenever I've had any time off the booze, I don't save a penny. It all goes in food and I gain weight.

[DulwichFox]

Otta Wrote:

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> Whenever I've had any time off the booze, I don't

> save a penny. It all goes in food and I gain

> weight.

Well I'm type 2 so I can't even resort to that... and people wonder why I can be a miserable old git.. :)

Foxy

[KidKruger]

It'll do you good young Foxy. The sleep thing will improve after a few days.

Good luck.

[Jah Lush]

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> Otta Wrote:

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> > Whenever I've had any time off the booze, I

> don't

> > save a penny. It all goes in food and I gain

> > weight.

>

> Well I'm type 2 so I can't even resort to that...

> and people wonder why I can be a miserable old

> git.. :)

>

> Foxy

I'm sure I remember you saying somewhere on these pages that you'd reversed it.

NB: I was diagnosed with type two diabetetes six months ago.

[DulwichFox]

Jah Lush Wrote:

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> DulwichFox Wrote:

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> > Otta Wrote:

> >

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> > -----

> > > Whenever I've had any time off the booze, I

> > don't

> > > save a penny. It all goes in food and I gain

> > > weight.

> >

> > Well I'm type 2 so I can't even resort to

> that...

> > and people wonder why I can be a miserable old

> > git.. :)

> >

> > Foxy

>

> I'm sure I remember you saying somewhere on these

> pages that you'd reversed it.

>

> NB: I was diagnosed with type two diabetetes six

> months ago.

Yes.. it's a controversial subject and there is conflict as to whether reversal is possible.

My blood sugar as tested at DMC Wednesday was 6.6mml 2 - 3 hour postprandial which I was told is good.

There was a article suggesting that a 'severe' diet of <600 calories a day for 3 months could reverse

type-2 diabetes.. This a very dangerous course of action and not recommended.

I had an accident with a heavy scaffolding ladder and twisted my back. I was in excruciating pain and given Tramadol.

I suffered severe constipation and could not poo for 10 days.. I was given various medications Movicol and suppositories but nothing cleared it up. I went to Kings on 3 occasions. I was crying with pain. Not from just my back but from my innards.

I could not sleep or lie down..

This problem continued from October - February.Not really going for 7 - 10 days at a time. I could not eat - nothing was coming out.

Eventually as my back got better I stopped the Tramadol and used Paracetamol. and I started to go normally.

But I had gone down to 6.5 stone.. I was very ill.

..but as a consequence It may of been what reversed my Type -2. I do eat most things but I am cautious as

it could return as it could with anyone not eating well.

That was back in 2011/12. All my Hb1aC have been in the range of 5.8 and (5.3 July 2014)

Had my Blood tested yesterday and await the results.

N.B.

Because red blood cells in the human body survive for 8-12 weeks before renewal, measuring glycated haemoglobin (or HbA1c) can be used to reflect average blood glucose levels over that duration, providing a useful longer-term gauge of blood glucose control.

You cam PM me if you need advice.. Diabetes can cause people stress and concern..

Foxy

[GroveLaneMan]

I'm doing it too ! I'm finding it ok . It helps that work is a bit manic too

[DulwichFox]

Not finding not drinking alcohol a problem when staying at home .. despite my place being full of the stuff..

It's what else to drink if I go out to the pub or restaurant..

DulwichFox

[Seabag]

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> Not finding not drinking alcohol a problem when

> staying at home .. despite my place being full of

> the stuff..

> It's what else to drink if I go out to the pub or

> restaurant..

>

> DulwichFox

Drink in the atmosphere Fox

Get giddy on the company you keep

Be high on life

And think of the money you're saving

[littlemissj]

Day 11 & i'm starting to feel desperate for a drink already.

I wouldn't mind but don't usually drink that much anyway but craving a Cosmo or Vodka Lemon & lime

[DulwichFox]

littlemissj Wrote:

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> Day 11 & i'm starting to feel desperate for a

> drink already.

> I wouldn't mind but don't usually drink that much

> anyway but craving a Cosmo or Vodka Lemon & lime

Stick with it. I have a house full of spirits ,liqueurs and beers and not tempted..

Been to the pub a few times and stuck to alcohol free. Tastes awful..

Could keep going into February.. I won't want to start again .

Would of saved enough dosh by the end of March for a good holiday in the sun.

DulwichFox

[Sue]

I think I used up my government alcohol allowance for the year at the weekend :(

[Seabag]

Sue Wrote:

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> I think I used up my government alcohol allowance

> for the year at the weekend :(

This and evey weekend

I'm with you Sue, it's all or nothing here at #SeaBagTowers

[DulwichFox]

11 days now... and beginning to notice a difference.. Sleeping like a baby.. Wide awake during the day.

More energy but just need some Summer Sun.

Foxy

[littlemissj]

Thanks for the support DulwichFox.

I will stick to it, nearly cracked last night but i made it through.

You stick at it too, although you sound like you are doing a lot better than me : )

[phobic3000]

My dry January is going really well, helped mainly by the fact I've made exceptions for weekends and evenings...

[DulwichFox]

I keep really fancying a shot of Drambuie or Grand Marnier before bed.. It's sitting there tempting me.. Talking to me..

Foxy

[Sue]

phobic3000 Wrote:

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> My dry January is going really well, helped mainly

> by the fact I've made exceptions for weekends and

> evenings...

:))

[Sue]

Seabag Wrote:

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> Sue Wrote:

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> > I think I used up my government alcohol

> allowance

> > for the year at the weekend :(

>

>

> This and evey weekend

>

> I'm with you Sue, it's all or nothing here at

> #SeaBagTowers

My main downfall last weekend was The Castle.

Dropped in for one.

Stayed all night. It's the juke box. It's really good. The Guinness isn't too bad either :))

[Otta]

Foxy I agree that when off the booze it's hard to find a satisfactory drink to have.

I love ginger beer, but my teeth rot!

[DulwichFox]

Its the first time in nigh on 40 years I've gone more that 2-3 days without a beer...

.. and I haven't done that very many times.. Even when I very occasionally stay in, I usually have

a couple of small beers.

According to my doctor I am considered alcohol dependent..

Well after 12 days dry and feeling ok that really cannot be the case.

I have surprised myself..

Curry club night on Thursday, which can turn out a boozy evening with free after meal Sambucas and the like

and back to the pub for afters... ???

Foxy

[Sue]

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> Its the first time in nigh on 40 years I've gone

> more that 2-3 days without a beer...

> .. and I haven't done that very many times.. Even

> when I very occasionally stay in, I usually have

> a couple of small beers.

>

> According to my doctor I am considered alcohol

> dependent..

> Well after 12 days dry and feeling ok that really

> cannot be the case.

>

> I have surprised myself..

>

> Curry club night on Thursday, which can turn out

> a boozy evening with free after meal Sambucas and

> the like

> and back to the pub for afters... ???

>

>

Well done Fox, you're an example to us all!

I've only had a couple of days without a drink since Christmas :( I'm currently using up the ginger wine and will then be forced to start on the sherry :)) though actually quite a lot of the sherry went into a trifle. That doesn't count, does it?!

Why did your GP say you were alcohol dependent? Because of the amount you drank? Because I'm not sure that's an adequate criterion?

ETA: I have given up alcohol altogether for months at a time in the past, but I'm really not sure I could do it now, so does that make me alcohol dependent?

[BrandNewGuy]

"Alcohol dependent" - weasel words used to harangue people. You're not alcoholic but you could be a "better person". I'm with Simon Jenkins:

"... These limits are about a vague national self-image of puritanism, not health. In Spain the ?safe? level is 35 units for men and 21 for women. In America it is 22 for men and 12.3 for women; in Ireland 21.2 and 15; in New Zealand 19 and 15; and in Japan there is no recommended limit for women, who can apparently get plastered all they like. Hunt having identical limits for men and women is a cynical sop to gender politics... France has the best government guidance on alcohol consumption. It has none."

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jan/08/state-drinking-habits-uk-guidelines-alcohol-health

[DulwichFox]

Sue Wrote:

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> DulwichFox Wrote:

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> > Its the first time in nigh on 40 years I've

> gone

> > more that 2-3 days without a beer...

> > .. and I haven't done that very many times..

> Even

> > when I very occasionally stay in, I usually have

>

> > a couple of small beers.

> >

> > According to my doctor I am considered

> alcohol

> > dependent..

> > Well after 12 days dry and feeling ok that

> really

> > cannot be the case.

> >

> > I have surprised myself..

> >

> > Curry club night on Thursday, which can turn

> out

> > a boozy evening with free after meal Sambucas

> and

> > the like

> > and back to the pub for afters... ???

> >

> >

>

>

> Well done Fox, you're an example to us all!

>

> I've only had a couple of days without a drink

> since Christmas :( I'm currently using up the

> ginger wine and will then be forced to start on

> the sherry :)) though actually quite a lot of the

> sherry went into a trifle. That doesn't count,

> does it?!

>

Why did your GP say you were alcohol dependent?

Because of the amount you drank? Because I'm not

sure that's an adequate criterion?

> ETA: I have given up alcohol altogether for months

> at a time in the past, but I'm really not sure I

> could do it now, so does that make me alcohol

> dependent?

Because I drink 1-2 pints daily.. 'Alcohol dependent' Nothing to do with the amount. ??

If I stay in I might drink 330ml Peroni.

Foxy

[Otta]

Alcohol dependant means you're physically addicted. Being as you've now done well over a week without it, and didn't have any nasty side effects, I'd suggest that your GP was talking shit.

[Sue]

DulwichFox Wrote:> dependent?

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> Because I drink 1-2 pints daily.. 'Alcohol

> dependent' Nothing to do with the amount. ??

> If I stay in I might drink 330ml Peroni.

>

So if you drink every day you're alcohol dependent, even if it's not very much?

But if you drink nothing all week and then binge drink at weekends you're not alcohol dependent?

And if you're not drinking because you're a recovering alcoholic, or whatever the term is, you're not alcohol dependent?

That seems crazy to me.

I was once told it was about physiological (?) dependency and that if you can have days without drinking, it means you're not dependent. Is that wrong?

I've just googled it:

https://www.drinkaware.co.uk/check-the-facts/health-effects-of-alcohol/mental-health/alcohol-dependence

Hmm. Maybe I should take advantage of their offer to "assess your drinking with our free tool" :))

Or maybe not :))

ETA: I did the assessment. It said I should "think about cutting down." OK, I'll think about it. Right, I've thought.