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Louisa Wrote:

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> The Beatles. Most overrated, drawn out for decades

> rubbish I've ever heard.

>

> Louisa.


Blimey, that was quick, the first Beatles-hating-posturing ninny in a thread of this sort.

Disliking The Beatles in the context of pop music isn't an opinion, it's an attitude, a quasi maverick pose that just won't do.


The Beatles and George Martin set the bar for pop and then raised it and then some more.

While doing so they made pop songs of great beauty and something more.


For what it's worth, I've got my theory of the three 'B's who created what we've got today, popwise, rockwise and all else The Beatles, Bob Dylan and Berry Gordy.


Although if I never hear Yellow Submarine again...

HonaloochieB Wrote:

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> Blimey, that was quick, the first

> Beatles-hating-posturing ninny in a thread of this

> sort.

> Disliking The Beatles in the context of pop music

> isn't an opinion, it's an attitude, a quasi

> maverick pose that just won't do.




I like this a lot.

HonaloochieB Wrote:

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> Louisa Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > The Beatles. Most overrated, drawn out for

> decades

> > rubbish I've ever heard.

> >

> > Louisa.

>

> Blimey, that was quick, the first

> Beatles-hating-posturing ninny in a thread of this

> sort.

> Disliking The Beatles in the context of pop music

> isn't an opinion, it's an attitude, a quasi

> maverick pose that just won't do.

>

> The Beatles and George Martin set the bar for pop

> and then raised it and then some more.

> While doing so they made pop songs of great beauty

> and something more.

>

> For what it's worth, I've got my theory of the

> three 'B's who created what we've got today,

> popwise, rockwise and all else The Beatles, Bob

> Dylan and Berry Gordy.

>

> Although if I never hear Yellow Submarine again...


I have never actively hated them, not to start with at least. I just found them excruciatingly overrated and influenced primarily by manufactured pop stars of the early rock' n roll era. Granted they wrote their own tunes, great. Lots of people were doing that years before them. In post war Britain they were seen as a big deal because let's face it, we had Cliff Richard setting the bar for popular music. Enough said. Most people that rate them weren't around the first time and believed all the hype they were fed in the following decades. I was there, it wasn't great.


Louisa.

So on unpopular opinions... I think these days Paul McCartney is under-rated, and John Lennon is over-rated.


While macca being dragged out for every kind of ceremony is a bit tiresome, he wrote some great stuff for the Beatles (and some Wings material is actually decent too). Just forget anything after, say, 1975.


Meanwhile John was not without his sins... Imagine is diabolical. And as for his whole "arty" phase... arggh. I think he has been remembered a bit too kindly. If he was still around, he'd probably be way more cringeworthy than Paul.

Jah Lush Wrote:

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> You don't half write some crap Louisa.

> HonaloochieB is spot on. I was there too. It was

> ace.


Nah I don't talk crap, I just have a valid opinion about yet another overrated 60's pop group, who were fortunate enough to hit the big time both sides of the Atlantic (luck more than judgement may I add). Music is subjective anyway. I think Jah and HonaloochieB are classic examples of pop brainwashing. I prefer to look at these things from afar rather than be lead along with the crowd. The Beatles were average artists who were pretty good at writing catchy lyrics off the back of the style of Elvis et al - who had already set the bar pretty damn high across the pond.


Louisa.

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