'New Shops' thread general issues - taken off topic

[Louisa]

Dear Admin,

As I am not able to reply or comment in the main section (getting on for a year now), I thought I would raise this issue here for you to read.

Once again, numerous people have taken a legitimate and important thread off topic in the main section, to take personal digs at others. I am not going to mention names publicly it isn't fair, but I would appreciate if you could respond and let me and others know why this is allowed, without any intervention from yourself.

At the same time, I am still languishing in the Lounge when I've not done anything wrong. We all know certain folk on here disagree and like to perpetuate the line that 'Louisa regularly says and does horrible things' etc etc (primarily to keep me locked in here no doubt), but please, can you stop the double standards on this forum.

Louisa.

[*Bob*]

aka PLEASE let me back in the general issues section

[*Bob*]

pleeeeeeease

[*Bob*]

Is the 'vote' feature working yet?

[Pickle]

The thread was taken off topic by DulwichFox, and replies have been made to the ridiculous things he said and the contradictions to his own posts. Apparently nobody should eat in any of the cafes or restaurants, as it's a sign that people have no life, but it is fine to drink in a pub. You agree?

[Pickle]

Here's the post that took it off topic...

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> I am always amazed at the number of people who

> seem to be eating out these days...

> I eat out in the evenings occasionally .. Mostly

> Curry..

> .. But Breakfast... Brunch.. Lunch.. Afternoon

> Tea.. ?? Does anybody ever cook these days...

>

> I simply do not have time to eat out.. Travelling

> to Camberwell, Peckham, Forest Hill for a Coffee

> and a Croissant..

>

> Cooking is Fun.. More people need to try it..

>

> Foxy

[DulwichFox]

Pickle...

I did NOT take the thread off topic.

I said 'I am always amazed at the number of people who seem to be eating out these days...'

Any other comments were in reply to personal attacts by some usual suspects.

And whats all this about it being 'fine to drink in a pub..'

Who is that aimed at and what are you implying.. ?

DF.

[Pickle]

DulwichFox, I'm not going to waste my time. Perhaps read back over your own posts.

[red devil]

*Bob* Wrote:

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> Is the 'vote' feature working yet?

The votes are in...

Those in favour of keeping LoopyLou banned from the General Section, please raise your hand...

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01802/ronaldinho-hands-r_1802785i.jpg

[????]

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> Pickle...

>

> I did NOT take the thread off topic.

>

> I said 'I am always amazed at the number of

> people who seem to be eating out these days...'

>

> Any other comments were in reply to personal

> attacts by some usual suspects.

>

> And whats all this about it being 'fine to drink

> in a pub..'

> Who is that aimed at and what are you implying..

> ?

>

> DF.

Don't reply or Foxy will likely threaten you with the police as part of some sort of hate crime thing....

[Louisa]

Pickle Wrote:

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> The thread was taken off topic by DulwichFox, and

> replies have been made to the ridiculous things he

> said and the contradictions to his own posts.

> Apparently nobody should eat in any of the cafes

> or restaurants, as it's a sign that people have no

> life, but it is fine to drink in a pub. You

> agree?

Pickle whether I agree with foxy and his initial comment on that thread is irrelevant, and frankly a side show here. The bigger point is this. Once again certain people patronisingly gang up on one individual to sort of troll/bully one point made by that person. It's out of order, and people justify it by saying they are 'calling person A up on contradictory comment B' etc. It's ugly behaviour, and easily fits into the 'nasty trolling' category in my book. And yet, some of the folk jumping on the 'me sir, me, me, I also think person A is talking bollocks' are often more than happy to freely dig me out for being a nasty individual who trolls. Double standards. And still no response from Admin, surprise surprise.

Louisa.

[Administrator]

In response:

The thread in question veered off topic, you made me aware and by that time the thread was back on topic so there was no need for a "please stay on topic" request. As for people taking personal digs at others, if people put discussion comments out about what they do then they can expect people to discuss what they do, especially if there are inconsistencies. The fact that it happens to the same person frequently can make it feel like a herd attack, however if someone frequently presents themselves as prey what can we learn from that?

We do keep an eye on trolling when we are made aware of it, contrary to what you think we don't read every post. Also we have different rule books Louisa, mine is for the best of the forum as a whole and not to benefit specific individuals such as yourself. And goading me does you no favours.

[Jeremy]

From where I'm sat, it looks like someone essentially telling everyone else on the thread to "get a life". And others arguing their corner with a bit of gentle piss-taking thrown in. Personal attacks? Trolling? Bullying? You must have lived a sheltered life...

[Louisa]

Administrator Wrote:

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> In response:

> The thread in question veered off topic, you made

> me aware and by that time the thread was back on

> topic so there was no need for a "please stay on

> topic" requestAs for people taking personal digs

> at others, if people put discussion comments out

> about what they do then they can expect people to

> discuss what they do, especially if there are

> inconsistencies. The fact that it happens to the

> same person frequently can make it feel like a

> herd attack, however if someone frequently

> presents themselves as prey what can we learn from

> that?

>

> We do keep an eye on trolling when we are made

> aware of it, contrary to what you think we don't

> read every post. Also we have different rule books

> Louisa, mine is for the best of the forum as a

> whole and not to benefit specific individuals such

> as yourself. And goading me does you no favours.

But others goading me and fox and other users is OK is it? Double standards, as I said previously. And what do you mean by "does you no favours"? You've restricted my access to the lounge for a year whilst others are causing trouble in the main section, so from where I'm sat no favours have come my way regardless of circumstance so I don't really care if I pull you up on double standards.

Louisa.

[red devil]

Methinks someone is going stir crazy...

http://lowres.jantoo.com/law-policing-prisoner-criminal-inmate-calendar-tally-00800351_low.jpg

[Louisa]

Jeremy Wrote:

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> From where I'm sat, it looks like someone

> essentially telling everyone else on the thread to

> "get a life". And others arguing their corner with

> a bit of gentle piss-taking thrown in. Personal

> attacks? Trolling? Bullying? You must have lived a

> sheltered life...

Jeremy, here's my point. I was put in the Lounge for negative opinions and constantly taking threads off topic. The same happens on a daily basis in the main section, the aforementioned thread being a prime example. Not only that, but a specific member of the forum has been targeted for this 'piss-taking', which may or may not be taken on the chin as a joke. If I did the same thing I would have been banned from the forum, simple as that. Can you not see the double standards here?

Louisa.

[*Bob*]

Louisa Wrote:

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> And what do you mean by "does you no favours"?

I think it means that the screechy "AN OPEN LETTER TO ADMIN" with its passive-aggressive content and general stop-what-you-are-doing-and-look-at-me-because-I-have-something-terribly-important-to-say feel is unlikely to get results.

[edcam]

Both Louisa and Dulwich Fox make daft comments (often about others and their behaviour) and then whinge when people pick them up on it. If they didn't behave in this way, nobody would criticise them. It's quite simple really.

[DulwichFox]

edcam Wrote:

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> Both Louisa and Dulwich Fox make daft comments..

Galileo made daft comments.. He suggested The Earth went around the Sun.. and was convicted of Heresy..

One should not critisise what you can't understand..

DulwichFox

[????]

Hey Louisa , why don't you start your own forum?

Maybe not allow 'blow-ins' 'snobs' and 'Yummy mummys' in and ban anyone who 'bullies'* you or foxy too? Only propa old school SE22 salt of the earths.....

*that is people picking up others on massive inconsistencies or gross stereotyping

[????]

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> edcam Wrote:

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> -----

> > Both Louisa and Dulwich Fox make daft

> comments..

>

> Galileo made daft comments.. He suggested The

> Earth went around the Sun.. and was convicted of

> Heresy..

> One should not critisise what you can't

> understand..

>

> DulwichFox

Laughable narcissism

[Alan Medic]

Be careful what you wish for Louisa (where have I heard that before?). You might be thrown out of the Lounge and find yourself only being able to post in the For Sale section......

[DulwichFox]

???? Wrote:

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> DulwichFox Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > edcam Wrote:

> >

> --------------------------------------------------

>

> > -----

> > > Both Louisa and Dulwich Fox make daft

> > comments..

> >

> > Galileo made daft comments.. He suggested The

> > Earth went around the Sun.. and was convicted

> of

> > Heresy..

> > One should not critisise what you can't

> > understand..

> >

> > DulwichFox

>

> Laughable narcissism

The Fox does not need to be narcissistic... People just keep talking about Him.. ;-)

I take it as a sign of affection.. What would you do without him... and Louisa.. ?

Foxy

[ED - NAGAIUTB]

Louisa - derailing threads since 2007.

Long may her ban continue.

[Louisa]

Be careful what you wish for quids. I may just do that. Loufoxit would have a negative affect on the forum and could potentially lead to its collapse as a viable local resource. Anyway, didn't you flounce off for a while because you felt the forum had gone downhill? You were lurking around for months without posting. Attention seeking works both ways you know. Without the likes of me and foxy this forum would become very dull. Admin knows this, that's why I've only been confined to the lounge and not banished to the West Dulwich Forum.

Louisa.