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messageGhosts and paranormal activity in ED & PR
Posted by Louisa 30 December, 2013 17:28

Having recently been visited by a local psychic due to some unexplained activity in my home, I wondered of anyone else had seen or heard of any local ghostly activities? I found a few articles online regarding tales of spiritual activity, and this one in particular caught my eye regarding the old Kings Arms pub which was destroyed during the blitz.

[www.mysteriousbritain.co.uk]

Louisa.

messageRe: Ghosts and paranormal activity in ED & PR
Posted by Sue 30 December, 2013 17:38

Louisa Wrote:
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> Having recently been visited by a local psychic
> due to some unexplained activity in my home,

xxxxxxx

Hey come on, you can't leave it there!

What "unexplained activity" ?!

And what did the psychic say ?!

messageRe: Ghosts and paranormal activity in ED & PR
Posted by Louisa 30 December, 2013 17:47

Sue, I've been attending a spiritualist church in Eltham for a few years now on a Sunday, and until very recently had disregarded certain things at home happening. But progressively increasing in frequency I've had unexplained activity happening at home. Including cold spots, movement of objects and the smell of cigar smoke. A visiting spirit medium told me it was the ghost of a man who had lived in the property some 70 years ago and he was an active spirit. I am actually quite happy to have him here, though some people experience more sinister hauntings, I've been lucky.

Louisa.

messageRe: Ghosts and paranormal activity in ED & PR
Posted by Kathleen Olander 30 December, 2013 18:25

I have heard this many times regarding the haunting of the Kings Arms PH and ghosts singing WW2 songs in the bar.

Only a little research is needed to find that no-one died in this pub during the second world war.

messageRe: Ghosts and paranormal activity in ED & PR
Posted by voltore 30 December, 2013 18:45

Not to dismiss the possibility; but surely attending a spiritualist church for a few years shows some kind of pre-disposition towards 'other worldly' activity which might explain the recent "unexplained activity"?

Sorry to pi55 on the bonfire.

messageRe: Ghosts and paranormal activity in ED & PR
Posted by Louisa 30 December, 2013 19:15

Voltore you make a great point, and this was my reckoning too. I've always had an open mind towards other worldly activities for years, and having never previously experienced much I guessed it was all load of old s*it. However, since attending this place I've been given guidance over what to look out for, and I always look for the rational before jumping to conclusions. I've had a trained spirit medium as well as other individuals experiencing things in the property and it all fits together.

Louisa.

messageRe: Ghosts and paranormal activity in ED & PR
Posted by Jeremy 30 December, 2013 19:22

We have cold spots by the windows and also the front door. Could this also be a spirit?

messageRe: Ghosts and paranormal activity in ED & PR
Posted by 30 December, 2013 19:29

Iceland on LL must be plagued by weird cold spots

messageRe: Ghosts and paranormal activity in ED & PR
Posted by rahrahrah 30 December, 2013 19:49

My booze cabinet is plagued with spirits

messageRe: Ghosts and paranormal activity in ED & PR
Posted by Sue 30 December, 2013 20:45

Kathleen Olander Wrote:
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> I have heard this many times regarding the
> haunting of the Kings Arms PH and ghosts singing
> WW2 songs in the bar.
>
> Only a little research is needed to find that
> no-one died in this pub during the second world
> war.

xxxxxxx

Not sure you necessarily need to have had a death there for people to experience things like that?

messageRe: Ghosts and paranormal activity in ED & PR
Posted by voltore 30 December, 2013 21:03

Sue Wrote:
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> Kathleen Olander Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I have heard this many times regarding the
> > haunting of the Kings Arms PH and ghosts
> singing
> > WW2 songs in the bar.
> >
> > Only a little research is needed to find that
> > no-one died in this pub during the second world
> > war.
>
> xxxxxxx
>
> Not sure you necessarily need to have had a death
> there for people to experience things like that?

Agreed, I think the alcohol supply is more important

messageRe: Ghosts and paranormal activity in ED & PR
Posted by lilolil 30 December, 2013 21:24

11 people died
[dulwichonview.org.uk]

messageRe: Ghosts and paranormal activity in ED & PR
Posted by KidKruger 30 December, 2013 21:27

I started a thread a while back on paranormal stuff or something like that - there were some interesting stories.
To answer your question tho, nothing experienced in ED but the house I grew up in was occupied and there was loads of weird shit that went down. Thing is, unless you've seen it / were there, its awkward explaining it because people are quite rightly dubious and if you haven't got a stake in trying to convince anyone (who cares what people who weren't there think) it's just a whole load of effort for nowt.

messageRe: Ghosts and paranormal activity in ED & PR
Posted by NewWave 30 December, 2013 23:00

I used to go to the Spiritualist church in Notting Hill.
Does anyone know of any spiritualist churches in South London that are nearer than Eltham???

messageRe: Ghosts and paranormal activity in ED & PR
Posted by lilolil 30 December, 2013 23:03

Yes, Venner Road, Sydenham on a Wednesday evening
[davidnason.org.uk]

messageRe: Ghosts and paranormal activity in ED & PR
Posted by ED - NAGAIUTB 30 December, 2013 23:33

Louisa Wrote:
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I've always had an open mind towards other worldly activities for years.
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Er...... So it's only this world that you're closed minded and bigoted to then?

And cigar smoke? How very middle class. You must be distraught.

messageRe: Ghosts and paranormal activity in ED & PR
Posted by Louisa 31 December, 2013 02:55

ED - NAGAIUTB Wrote:
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> Louisa Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> I've always had an open mind towards other worldly
> activities for years.
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> Er...... So it's only this world that you're
> closed minded and bigoted to then?

Yes.

> And cigar smoke? How very middle class. You must
> be distraught.

Cigar smoking middle class? If anything I'd have said upper class. Although having said that, I can remember the working men's club in Peckham back in the 70s and a lot of the old boys smoked cigars and pipes.

Louisa.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit was 2013:12:31:02:57:37 by Louisa.

messageRe: Ghosts and paranormal activity in ED & PR
Posted by Peckhamgatecrasher 31 December, 2013 07:52

It's very mysterious that MysteriousBritain has the wrong location for Kings on the Rye on their map.

Perhaps they are not too concerned with truth and accuracy.

messageRe: Ghosts and paranormal activity in ED & PR
Posted by Kathleen Olander 31 December, 2013 10:03

Sue Wrote:
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> Kathleen Olander Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I have heard this many times regarding the
> > haunting of the Kings Arms PH and ghosts
> singing
> > WW2 songs in the bar.
> >
> > Only a little research is needed to find that
> > no-one died in this pub during the second world
> > war.
>
> xxxxxxx
>
> Not sure you necessarily need to have had a death
> there for people to experience things like that?

I have no idea about paranormal stuff, but people keep quoting that 11 people died in the Kings Arms and that just isn't true, even if Dulwich on View says it is!

messageRe: Ghosts and paranormal activity in ED & PR
Posted by Chick 31 December, 2013 10:09

One stop beyond. East Ham.

messageRe: Ghosts and paranormal activity in ED & PR
Posted by lilolil 31 December, 2013 10:41

Actually, my family who lived just around the corner at the time, said that people were buried under the rubble and could not be reached. My uncle was one of the wardens who tried to rescue them.

messageRe: Ghosts and paranormal activity in ED & PR
Posted by taper 31 December, 2013 11:29

I am very happy to give the OP the assurance that there is no such thing as paranormal activity. I hope she did not pay the psychic, who is either deluded or a charlatan.

messageRe: Ghosts and paranormal activity in ED & PR
Posted by Peckhampam 31 December, 2013 11:44

Hear, hear

messageRe: Ghosts and paranormal activity in ED & PR
Posted by Louisa 31 December, 2013 11:45

I have just checked an official blitz mapping website which confirms a bomb did destroy the Kings Arms public house in 1941, however there is no further information on how many people were killed, if any at all. Like others on here, I've been told the stories through older relatives of people dying but I cannot find any factual information confirming this.

Taper, thank you for your reassurance, but as with all belief systems I think we are entitled to believe them whether others do or not. The psychic was not paid, she has been doing it for years and admits herself it isnt flawless, she can only describe what she feels and sees in her minds eye. Whether you choose to believe her or not is upto you.

Louisa.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit was 2013:12:31:11:47:07 by Louisa.

messageRe: Ghosts and paranormal activity in ED & PR
Posted by rahrahrah 31 December, 2013 12:34

I'm not sure the issue is whether or not people died on the site is the most obvious point of contention.

messageRe: Ghosts and paranormal activity in ED & PR
Posted by Alan Medic 31 December, 2013 13:23

taper Wrote:
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> I am very happy to give the OP the assurance that
> there is no such thing as paranormal activity.

Eh.....how do you know? If people at one won point quite reasonably assumed the Earth was flat, the liklihood is you would have been one of them. And it seems it's not.

messageRe: Ghosts and paranormal activity in ED & PR
Posted by Sue 31 December, 2013 14:04

taper Wrote:
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> I am very happy to give the OP the assurance that
> there is no such thing as paranormal activity.

xxxxxx

Evidence for your statement, please?

messageRe: Ghosts and paranormal activity in ED & PR
Posted by Alan Medic 31 December, 2013 14:07

That's the same as 'how do you know', Sue.

messageRe: Ghosts and paranormal activity in ED & PR
Posted by taper 31 December, 2013 14:07

How dare you. In a previous life I was Pythagoras.

Believe what you wish Louisa. But rest assured your fears of ghosties and ghoulies are not well founded. Pleased to hear you didn't spunk any cash on the psychic.

messageRe: Ghosts and paranormal activity in ED & PR
Posted by taper 31 December, 2013 14:08

Sue Wrote:
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> taper Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I am very happy to give the OP the assurance
> that
> > there is no such thing as paranormal activity.
>
> xxxxxx
>
> Evidence for your statement, please?

The burden of evidence is on you and yours. V difficult to prove a negative.

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