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messageRe: Brexit View
Posted by keano77 07 September, 2019 12:54

Sephiroth Wrote:
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> And another good read here
>
> [www.rte.ie]
> 0907/1074437-backstop-brexit-boris-johnson/
>
> I have no idea where people like Louisa and keano
> get their info from. But itís very very wrong

Donald, Jean-Claude, Michel and Guy frequently call my encrypted hotline to chew the fat.

The applications of Ursula (von der Leyen) and Charles (Michel) are pending subject to being vetted by my team

messageRe: Brexit View
Posted by seenbeen 07 September, 2019 13:50

JohnL Wrote:
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> Jo Johnson
>
> "It's been an honour to represent Orpington for 9
> years & to serve as a minister under three PMs.
> In recent weeks I've been torn between family
> loyalty and national interest. It's an
> unresolvable tension & time for others to take on
> my roles as MP & minister"
>
> Bye Bro

No mention of his constituency then- 57.5% voted Leave....

messageRe: Brexit View
Posted by MSA 07 September, 2019 14:09

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messageRe: Brexit View
Posted by Alan Medic 07 September, 2019 17:59

seenbeen Wrote:
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> JohnL Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Jo Johnson
> >
> > "It's been an honour to represent Orpington for
> 9
> > years & to serve as a minister under three PMs.
>
> > In recent weeks I've been torn between family
> > loyalty and national interest. It's an
> > unresolvable tension & time for others to take
> on
> > my roles as MP & minister"
> >
> > Bye Bro
>
> No mention of his constituency then- 57.5% voted
> Leave....

How is that relevant?

messageRe: Brexit View
Posted by Loutwo 07 September, 2019 21:58

Amber Rudd - gone.

Louisa.

messageRe: Brexit View
Posted by Passiflora 07 September, 2019 23:17

Alan Medic Wrote:
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> seenbeen Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > JohnL Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Jo Johnson
> > >
> > > "It's been an honour to represent Orpington
> for
> > 9
> > > years & to serve as a minister under three
> PMs.
> >
> > > In recent weeks I've been torn between family
> > > loyalty and national interest. It's an
> > > unresolvable tension & time for others to
> take
> > on
> > > my roles as MP & minister"
> > >
> > > Bye Bro
> >
> > No mention of his constituency then- 57.5%
> voted
> > Leave....
>
> How is that relevant?

It is relevant. If his constituency voted to leave the EU three years ago then he has done the right thing. Choosing to do it because his brother is now PM and he (Jo) makes a public announcement defending his family etc. makes it even better that he should go.

messageRe: Brexit View
Posted by Passiflora 07 September, 2019 23:58

Loutwo Wrote:
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> Amber Rudd - gone.
>
> Louisa.

Didn't she go a few years ago? Another MP who is trying to thwart Brexit.

messageRe: Brexit View
Posted by Alan Medic 08 September, 2019 04:37

Passiflora Wrote:
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> Loutwo Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Amber Rudd - gone.
> >
> > Louisa.
>
> Didn't she go a few years ago? Another MP who is
> trying to thwart Brexit.

Which version of Brexit is she trying to thwart? There are so many.

messageRe: Brexit View
Posted by nxjen 08 September, 2019 08:25

Scary, Farage looking for Tory/Brexit party collaboration.

[www.theguardian.com]

messageRe: Brexit View
Posted by JohnL 09 September, 2019 10:05

Passiflora Wrote:
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> It is relevant. If his constituency voted to
> leave the EU three years ago then he has done the
> right thing. Choosing to do it because his
> brother is now PM and he (Jo) makes a public
> announcement defending his family etc. makes it
> even better that he should go.

This is one of the questions used to test peoples knowledge of the political process a few weeks ago. It doesn't matter what your constituency believes an MP is voted to use their own judgement. It's at the core of British Democracy and not just my point of view.

Of course Orpington is now free for Boris to take as his own in any GE as Uxbridge is not a safe seat if you suspect Jo is still doing Boris a favour.

messageRe: Brexit View
Posted by JohnL 09 September, 2019 10:12

[www.politics.co.uk]

"This means that, while the views of constituents are frequently considered, the actions of MPs are governed by their determination of the best interests of their constituency, their party and the country as a whole."

messageRe: Brexit View
Posted by seenbeen 09 September, 2019 11:02

Alan Medic Wrote:
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> seenbeen Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > JohnL Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Jo Johnson
> > >
> > > "It's been an honour to represent Orpington
> for
> > 9
> > > years & to serve as a minister under three
> PMs.
> >
> > > In recent weeks I've been torn between family
> > > loyalty and national interest. It's an
> > > unresolvable tension & time for others to
> take
> > on
> > > my roles as MP & minister"
> > >
> > > Bye Bro
> >
> > No mention of his constituency then- 57.5%
> voted
> > Leave....
>
> How is that relevant?

it turns out that his wife gave him an ultimatum- Boris or me....[www.thesun.co.uk]

messageRe: Brexit View
Posted by uncleglen 09 September, 2019 11:07

Great summary of the treachery here
[www.dailymail.co.uk]

messageRe: Brexit View
Posted by JohnL 09 September, 2019 11:44

David Snarkey

messageRe: Brexit View
Posted by JohnL 09 September, 2019 12:05

Boris in Dublin insisting he wants a real deal and saying no deal is a failing of statecraft.

Is he changing his tune or just making it up as he goes ?

messageRe: Brexit View
Posted by JohnL 09 September, 2019 12:08

"Nigel Farage, the Brexit party leader, claims that Boris Johnson has changed tack and that he is now going ďall outĒ for Theresa Mayís Brexit deal."

Theresa May must be laughing herself silly.

messageRe: Brexit View
Posted by Loutwo 09 September, 2019 12:17

Boris needs to be very very careful. These trumpesque throwaway comments at press conferences have consequences. He canít have his cake and eat it. Just when you think heís nailed his colours to the mast, he changes his tune again.

Louisa.

messageRe: Brexit View
Posted by diable rouge 09 September, 2019 13:04

Cummings detests Farage, his strategy of 'do or die' Brexit by the 31st Oct was also to neuter Farage and the Brexit Party once and for all, make him totally irrelevant politically. That's now failed with the extension Bill, so they have to change tack somehow and get a deal before the 31st in order to nullify Farage. A majority of Tory members when polled over the summer were happy to see the break up of the Union if it meant Brexit, so a Northern Ireland only backstop wouldn't upset them, just the DUP, who at the moment are useless to Johnson as their votes make no difference anymore. So, why not throw the DUP under the Brexit bus while parliament is shut down for 5 weeks and then vote on May's deal with a NI only backstop when they get back on 14th Oct?
Numbers would be tight with some ERG voting with DUP against it, but some Labour also likely to vote for it...

messageRe: Brexit View
Posted by teddyboy23 09 September, 2019 13:46

Apparently Boris will refuse to appoint a new European commissioner if forced to extend our membership after 31st October.this would mean the ec is not legally constituted because it must have. 28 commissioners.one from each member state if the EU tries to reduced the number.Boris will have the power of veto to block it.EU activity will be frozen.meaning . a no deal brexit would happen by 31 st October.by default .which could mean he doesn't have to abide by today's ruling. Slag me off if I'm wrong.



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messageRe: Brexit View
Posted by Sephiroth 09 September, 2019 13:49

where "Apparently " = the usual nutcase weird sources. Cummings?

I'm calling BS on this interpretation



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messageRe: Brexit View
Posted by diable rouge 09 September, 2019 13:49

3500...

messageRe: Brexit View
Posted by diable rouge 09 September, 2019 13:50

Bugger!...

messageRe: Brexit View
Posted by diable rouge 09 September, 2019 13:51

That's already been debunked, will look for a source...

messageRe: Brexit View
Posted by diable rouge 09 September, 2019 13:58

Try this legal debunk for size...[twitter.com]

messageRe: Brexit View
Posted by teddyboy23 09 September, 2019 14:07

Just read it Dr thanks.

messageRe: Brexit View
Posted by JohnL 09 September, 2019 15:00

That's some Humble Address by Dominic Grieve.

Basically sounds like "give me all your phones and passwords"

messageRe: Brexit View
Posted by JohnL 09 September, 2019 15:05

Private polling of constituencies not showing good for tories (this is constituency by constituency and seems to point to maybe the tories are piling up votes in already safe constituencies).

"A Number 10 mole tells me that the private polling actually shows the Tories would currently win 💥287 seats 💥(YouGov. Sample 50,000)" @PippaCrerar

messageRe: Brexit View
Posted by diable rouge 09 September, 2019 15:35

That could be a deliberate Cummings leak on the eve of tonight's early election vote, trick Corbyn into thinking that an early election plays into his hands. Or I could be getting really cynical...smiling smiley

messageRe: Brexit View
Posted by diable rouge 11 September, 2019 14:15

Boris Johnson rules out election pact with Brexit Party. Senior Tory source: ''Neither Nigel Farage nor Arron Banks are fit and proper persons and they should never be allowed anywhere near government''

That's quite the statement coming from the driver of the Brexit clown car...

messageRe: Brexit View
Posted by Alan Medic 11 September, 2019 19:34

diable rouge Wrote:
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> Boris Johnson rules out election pact with Brexit
> Party. Senior Tory source: ''Neither Nigel Farage
> nor Arron Banks are fit and proper persons and
> they should never be allowed anywhere near
> government''
>
> That's quite the statement coming from the driver
> of the Brexit clown car...

And quite peculiar at this point in time. I wonder why?

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