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messageRe: June 3rd will be the last day of The Palmerston
Posted by JohnL 16 May, 2019 09:54

Abe_froeman Wrote:
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> Looks like EI are becoming quite vindictive in all
> of this row
>
> [www.instagram.com]
> e=ig_web_copy_link
>
> Seems they've granted a new lease to a vehicle
> called "Old Spot Pubs" which is actually just a
> subsidiary of Enterprise Inns.

I agree on the pinkish colour with one of the comments - It's a great colour smiling smiley

messageRe: June 3rd will be the last day of The Palmerston
Posted by TonyQuinn 16 May, 2019 16:01

The whole thing is a 21st century swindle. And frankly a disgrace. How can a successful and much-loved part of the community be taken away so easily.
May I bring everyone's attention to what these guys who are apparently taking over say they're about.

Dave Ford, who is behind this joint venture with Ei that is taking over the Palmerston, said as recently as February, the following.

"We tend to take on pubs that have been shut for a while with the intention of giving the community back their local."

You're a hypocrite Mr Ford. If you want to give, as you say "the community back their local," give us back the Palmerston.

Until that time, I hope I see no one in whatever emerges. You don't have to call it a boycott. It's standing up for the community and its people.

I suggest that when Mr. Ford's crew turn up, we throw this line back in his face, time and time again.



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messageRe: June 3rd will be the last day of The Palmerston
Posted by alice 16 May, 2019 16:06

It will be packed.

messageRe: June 3rd will be the last day of The Palmerston
Posted by tiddles 17 May, 2019 00:25

With tony quinn on this

messageRe: June 3rd will be the last day of The Palmerston
Posted by goldilocks 17 May, 2019 10:07

Not even sure that a 'boycott' will be necessary. Looking at 'The Star of the East' the food offering is nothing like the quality of the Palmerston, so think that it won't necessary attract the same people. Will be interesting to see if there is a market for the middle of the road pubco pub food offering? Feels a bit like the pub food bit is well catered for, but I guess we will see once it opens. It reminds me a little of when Adventure Bar moved in, totally misjudged the market and closed down in a relatively short period of time.

messageRe: June 3rd will be the last day of The Palmerston
Posted by JohnL 17 May, 2019 10:10

goldilocks Wrote:
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> Not even sure that a 'boycott' will be necessary.
> Looking at 'The Star of the East' the food
> offering is nothing like the quality of the
> Palmerston, so think that it won't necessary
> attract the same people. Will be interesting to
> see if there is a market for the middle of the
> road pubco pub food offering? Feels a bit like
> the pub food bit is well catered for, but I guess
> we will see once it opens. It reminds me a little
> of when Adventure Bar moved in, totally misjudged
> the market and closed down in a relatively short
> period of time.

Adventure Bar should have worked at that point but now it would be Peckham smiling smiley

messageRe: June 3rd will be the last day of The Palmerston
Posted by mrwb 17 May, 2019 13:25

Let's wait and see. Ultimately this is a commercial dispute, we don't have full details of.

Does seem very odd current owners own the freehold though. Presumably they'll be able take it back eventually.

messageRe: June 3rd will be the last day of The Palmerston
Posted by Jim1234 18 May, 2019 08:33

Will the Palmerston not be looking to reopen at a different site?

messageRe: June 3rd will be the last day of The Palmerston
Posted by tiddles 18 May, 2019 09:47

Cannot think of any availble sites on lordship lane - they are local so would want to stay in the area where their loyal customers are

messageRe: June 3rd will be the last day of The Palmerston
Posted by goldilocks 18 May, 2019 17:36

They could wait for Youngs to give up on the cherry tree and move in there! Would actually work as a pub AND a dining room!

messageRe: June 3rd will be the last day of The Palmerston
Posted by Baroness Millhaven 28 May, 2019 16:44

It already works as a pub/dining room and Youngs are already spending money on a refurb

messageRe: June 3rd will be the last day of The Palmerston
Posted by Sephiroth 28 May, 2019 17:16

"Youngs are already spending money on a refurb"

which will be bland, very expensive and mediocre food

messageRe: June 3rd will be the last day of The Palmerston
Posted by Sue 30 May, 2019 07:31

Sephiroth Wrote:
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> "Youngs are already spending money on a refurb"
>
> which will be bland, very expensive and mediocre
> food


Yep

messageRe: June 3rd will be the last day of The Palmerston
Posted by Help-Ma-Boab 01 June, 2019 19:59

Open for one more week. Some kind of 1 week extension. Show it some love

Lovely lunch there today

messageRe: June 3rd will be the last day of The Palmerston
Posted by James Barber 03 June, 2019 07:16

That's really good to know. Thank you Help-Me-Boab.

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messageRe: June 3rd will be the last day of The Palmerston
Posted by Carrie 03 June, 2019 14:53

Looked pretty closed when I walked past at lunchtime

messageRe: June 3rd will be the last day of The Palmerston
Posted by Loutwo 03 June, 2019 17:17

This hasnt been a decent pub for years. I appreciate some people enjoy the food side of things, but lets face it its not a place to go and enjoy a few swift ones IMHO. Maybe whoever takes it over can turn it back into a less food orientated venue again. Fingers crossed.

Louisa.



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messageRe: June 3rd will be the last day of The Palmerston
Posted by DovertheRoad 03 June, 2019 17:28

Went to pay my farewell with a lunch on Saturday - food was excellent. Shows there's a quality chef maintaining standards right to the bitter end - a class touch and not something I've found elsewhere. I'm keen to see where Jamie and team land next - they'll no doubt take a stack of goodwill and customer loyalty with them.

Thanks Palmerston staff for all the good times we had over the years. Much missed and see you for the next one...

messageRe: June 3rd will be the last day of The Palmerston
Posted by DulwichFox 11 June, 2019 14:34

Spoke with the New owner Dave this afternoon. Very pleasant fellow.

Pub will be under The Old Spot Brewery and not Youngs.

Old Spot offers 5 - 6 beers. But Dave will be getting Guest beers inc. London Pride Fullers

Food will be available but Beer will be main Priority.

Hopes to be open in 2 1/2 weeks. Pending removal of asbestos. ?? so could be delayed

Also big Clean-up and Decorating job,, Painting, New Toilets..

Well needed in my opinion

Look forward to having an Old Pub back open after 15 years..

Just my opinion but I have a good feeling about this.
EDT needs some decent competition. Good Pub but They are getting a bit complacent

DulwichFox

messageRe: June 3rd will be the last day of The Palmerston
Posted by EDOldie 11 June, 2019 14:49

Well, this is the delightful parent company. [www.eigroupplc.com] As you can see a proper Pubco with about four and a half thousand 'pubs'. The complete antithesis of what a local pub is and should be. Its phoney, false and designed to fleece you rather than provide any sort of local amenity. So, another bland pub to join the ranks of the Dog, the Plough, sadly now the Cherry Tree as well. The EDT may be part of a group, but they do have local small brewers on tap and do make a real effort to be a local boozer. Its my pub of choice now within walking distance of home and the foods good too.

messageRe: June 3rd will be the last day of The Palmerston
Posted by Humdinger 11 June, 2019 14:50

Sounds good to me. I have little interest in pubs that are more bothered about serving people expensive lunch and dinners, than enjoying drinks.

As you said EDT seems to be the only one in the LL stretch that attracts people mostly there for drinking.

Great it will not be a Youngs either, who are the biggest money grabbers going.

messageRe: June 3rd will be the last day of The Palmerston
Posted by bob 11 June, 2019 15:36

What group does the EDT belong to

messageRe: June 3rd will be the last day of The Palmerston
Posted by EDOldie 11 June, 2019 15:39

[anticlondon.com] Antic Pubs

messageRe: June 3rd will be the last day of The Palmerston
Posted by tiddles 11 June, 2019 15:42

shame a small local business has been shut down in favour of a themed chain.

they won't be getting my business

messageRe: June 3rd will be the last day of The Palmerston
Posted by georgia 11 June, 2019 15:44

> > EDT needs some decent competition. Good Pub but
> They are getting a bit complacent
> DulwichFox

How exactly?

messageRe: June 3rd will be the last day of The Palmerston
Posted by Humdinger 11 June, 2019 15:44

Found this about Old Spot Pub sites:

[www.eigroupplc.com]

messageRe: June 3rd will be the last day of The Palmerston
Posted by Humdinger 11 June, 2019 16:29

i had a look at their food menu for another one of their pubs in Limehouse, where i would assume will be similar pricing as the Palmerston. A cheeseburger with chips is 13.50. A meat feast pizza is 14.

these are high prices for basic pub food, so im not holding my breath for the pints to be well priced.

messageRe: June 3rd will be the last day of The Palmerston
Posted by Sephiroth 11 June, 2019 16:42

[thestaroftheeast.co.uk]

Yep - high prices and judging by the photos, it doesn't exactly scream "proper pub" does it?

messageRe: June 3rd will be the last day of The Palmerston
Posted by derwentgrove 11 June, 2019 17:00

Whilst I too mourn the loss of the outgoing Palmerston, why the rush to judgment here? There seem to be seven pubs in the Old Spot group and on-line research suggests that no two menus are alike. I agree that the Limehouse menu isn't inspiring, but is that necessarily the best comparator? (I say that as someone who bought his first house in E14 and lived there for nine years before moving to ED). I will be keeping an open mind: on the basis of DF's intel it doesn't sound as if we will have too long to wait.



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messageRe: June 3rd will be the last day of The Palmerston
Posted by edcam 11 June, 2019 17:44

Don't you realise this is the East Dulwich Forum?!

derwentgrove Wrote:
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why the rush to judgment here?

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