bignumber5

to pinch a loaf to lay cable to have a forrest gump... ... seriously, i have hundreds for this single human activity... ;-)

Run to You - Bryan Adams (:-S)

Bloody Hell people, I'm away from t'internet for 6 hours and this is what you get up to... To catch up a bit, echos david_carnell on pretty much every point since my last post. Moos, I think that your assertions about tribalism are pretty much spot-on and have never really changed, the fluid concept is on which criteria each individual includes or excludes others into their tribe. The days of tribe being based on skin colour or nationality are, I like to think, well and truely over in the developed world. As the species has become more and more socially complex, so the criteria change. I don't feel more loyal to an Englishman that I've never met than to my friends in other countries, and only demonstrate blind loyalty to my nation when England are playing rugby. This doesn't mean I don't like being English or I'm not proud of being, because I do and I am. But in the majority of situations, my nationality and my ethnicity do not define my "tribe" because my life events don't take place on that scale. That being said, I think an element of tribalism is self preservation/safety in numbers, and I feel safe and secure in my life and my choices. Might I feel differently if I'd competed and lost in all walks of life to people who consistently came from what I perceived to be an externally identifiable common group? I'm not attempting to justify racism on behalf of those that cling to it, I'm noting that I have no personal experiences that would make me feel in such a way. But I've been harrassed when in a white-working-class Northern town for being different in a way that I never have in even the most ethnically diverse areas of London or any of the other countries that I have been to.

wine

Brendan Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Well if we?re lowering the tone a similar > expression could be; > > like a badly packed kebab. On a similar theme, She bangs like a shithouse door...

think the next drinks are pencilled in for 9th May at the Magdala, but I'm too knackered to search for the thread - it's around here somewhere!

and now for something completely different...

A quick bit of simple fact to demonstrate the shear stupidity of the BNP - the definition of indigenous. This came up pretty frequently when working in healthcare in NZ. As set down by the World Health Organisation, INDIGENOUS: the population of a country before the last invasion of that country. Based on this, and the last successful invasion of Britain being the Normans in 1066, anyone of Scandinavian, Norse or Roman Decent, Anglo-saxon, celts, gaelic... all ok. But anyone of Norman decent must go? Must we all take up genialogy and establish 10th Century heritage in order to stay in the UK, but late 11th Century lands you on a one-way boat to France? And re-patriation would have to work in both directions: Does the entire white population of The US, Australia, New Zealand etc have to come "back" to the uk? BNP - you promised that re-patriation would free up jobs and housing and end the problems of the nation: what about the 1 billion new arrivals? (I know they've dialled down on re-patriation of late) What kind of a political party doesn't even agree with its own ideas? BNP - Not just a bunch of mindless Racists tossers, but not very clever either... Please address any further arguements regarding what is and is not British and who should and should not be here to anyone in the population who knows absolutely that they are 100% "indigenous" (virtually nobody). In the mean time, our Celt Prime Minister, German Royal Family and the rest of us (who have no idea whether or not your mind-blowing prejudice includes us or not) have better things to do.

To denote a poor level of accuracy - "couldn't hit a bulls arse with a cannon"

Heavy

Fine show from keef as always, we had a great night (even if Mrs.Number5 did get suprisingly plastered! :)-D)

KalamityKel Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Thats an old Co-op tho surely if they do move back > to LL then the outfit would be modern. V.True - some of the more recently done out co-ops are really nice, all fresh fruit'n'veg and fairtrade all over the place. I think they're re-marketing themselves, and it's a decent result so far. But I'm not sure about the franchise situation - if they are franchises, starting up on LL takes somes stones and a butt-load of start up capital.

Spanish Eyes - Elvis Presley

Likewise. Headmaster was kind enough to tell me during one of many hours of detention (which often needed a 4 hour catch up on a Saturday morning) that I would never amount to anything, and that I might as well give up because people like me never amount to anything and often die young, poor and alone. I thought this sounded very rock'n'roll! He would then go on to explain how my older brother had been a model student etc etc. Interesting, I thought, from a man who (years after I left) was subsequently sacked for scamming a shed-load of cash from the school. http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/search/display.var.312676.0.suspended_head_will_face_hearing.php Word was he wasn't even who he said he was, but an identity thief who was not even qualified to teach, though I have no idea if that is true or not. Mores et Studia...

Economic Left/Right: -4.38 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.18 Just about wooley and liberal enough for annaj ;-)

Promiscuous >:D

On motorbikes in bus lanes, I'd have to say i don't think they should - the lane isn't wide enough for a bike and a bus together, which means a bike will hold up a bus if they can't get out of the bus lane once in it (bound to happen if a bike gets stuck between 2 buses, pretty likely during rush hour). Defeats the point of a bus lane.

Started with a big pitcher of beer 8-9 hours into the drinking day :)-D and ends with the word "projectile":-$. The Heathrow Convention prohibits further details...

The only one I HAVE been to (stag night). As my (now) brother-in-law noted the day after, the only thing less classy than ending up in hooters was being asked to leave...

You assume I haven't? Did for a year, many years back before all the congestion charging/CO2 emissions business. Wasn't very fit at the time so arriving everywhere exhausted and drenched in sweat was not ideal. But eventually stopped because of feeling intimidated by hardcore cyclists shouting at me when I was at the front of the q at the lights so that they could buzz thru and run the red.

I'll try to keep some perspective about this, but GRRRRRRRR: rant coming up... I've ridden a motorbike in London for years, and I don't use bus lanes (as implied we all do by TP) because I'm not supposed to. Rules of the road, you see. Now, dear cyclists, lets talk lanes, pavements, running red lights... Assertive cycling is easily progressed thru into general road menace, who the rules don't apply to, and who not only act like they are the only one who has any rights on the road but also get all high and mighty about being healthy, zero carbon etc. GRRRR! I haven't got a motorbike at the moment, so I'm on public transport. As a lifelong clausrophobic, this isn't a particularly comfortable experience, but I refuse to join the ranks of the London holier-than-thou cyclists. And that cyclists continue to bang on about how everyone else on the road needs to be more obedient and more considerate towards cyclists just takes the piss. (sorry, not much perspective kept in the end, but this is a topic that really gets my blood up)

Not so - it's people who would describe themself on first meeting as "a bit wacky, kooky, bubbly, always up for a laugh, me!"

david_carnell Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Scones is or course(!) :-S rhyming with cones. > Takes the s off of scones and you have cones - > therefore s-cones. Indeed - in a Terry Pratchett book there is a "scone of stone", implying that he thinks they're supposed to rhyme (and he's a literary genius) Here's one that i have trouble with that probably doesn't affect too many people on a daily basis, but cervical: the region of the first 7 vertebrae of the neck (sur-VI-cal, hard "vi"), or of the cervix (survi-cal). Years in the medical biz and I often still go for the wrong one, provoking a mixture of oh-dear-sneers and red-faced-giggles...

KalamityKel Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Similiarly only men can get away using the "c" > word without it sounding gobby and dare I say it > "chavvy" (no not meaning u chav or suggesting > Annaj would sound common... darn I fink I'm about > to dig a hole!) Annaj is on nights so not able to defend herself on this count due to being asleep, but she'd probably agree that it doesn't sound awfully ladylike if thrown around here, there and everywhere - when she gives it it's well timed, annual outing, it just makes me giggle like a schoolboy! On the place names front, not sure where we can really sit comfortably, since we don't pronounce place names properly in most cases - surely the correct way to pronounce any place name is the way that the people from it say it, so Paris, France etc are always pronounced wrong and should in fact be par-ee and fraanz respectively. But how much of a pretentious carrot ;-) do you sound if you do that?!

KalamityKel Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > hehe Annaj now ur just after some attention :p > > Keef I have u know my carrots r propah mean > PROPAH!!! No, it's true - something that I have learnt from marrying the posh annaj is that swear words seldom used but then fired out unexpectedly and perfectly enunciated have so much more impact. For casual use of the c word, though, Keef is right - Londoners every time. a mate of mine used to be able to slide it into a sentance so easily that I barely noticed half the time.