Marmora Man

Giggirl pointed out elsewhere that "top 10" was too restricting - so I'll add a few more. Adrian Lester in Henry 5, Dianna Rigg in Stoppard's Night & Day, Blue's in the Night at the Donmar with Clarke Peters and Maria Friedman - and as a "special" Dustin Hoffman in Merchant of Venice. Agree BB - Ute Lemper just oozzzes sex and Judi Dench as Sally Bowles had just the right, not quite trained, voice to play Sally as a down on her luck English girl in Berlin. Beat the pants of Liza Minnelli - tho' the latest Caberet with Anna Maxwell Martin was pretty good with a much harder ending.

Lists are just memories strung together in some semblance of order. Let those of that wish, indulge our memories, those that don't can form an orderly queue - which is another kind of list if you think about it.

George, You might ant to check out this thread for more ideas! Top 10 Films

I couldn't decide on my top ten films - so I thought about top ten theatre performances. This is just as difficult, here's a starter for ten - but it'll be different once I've had time to think further: 1968 ? Hair 1968 ? Caberet - Judi Dench as Sally Bowles 1968 ? Oh What a Lovely War 1973 - Equus - Peter Firth & Alec McCowen 1981 ?Amadeus (Frank Finlay as Amadeus) 1985 - Rosencrantz and Guilderstern are Dead (revival at NT) 1987 - Anthony & Cleopatra (Judi Dench as Cleo) 1986 - Breaking the Code ? Derek Jacobi 1998 ? Chicago ? Ute Lemper & Ruthie Henshall 2008 ? Much Ado about Nothing (Simon Russell Beale & Zoe Wanamaker) Edited to add correct actress in Much Ado. PS: Would add - Guys & Dolls, Evita, Cats as great pieces of theatre / musicals as well.

Should we modify this thread to become "The 100 must see films"? Even then that number is too restrictive - very time I read someone else's post I'm reminded of yet another film or films I forgot to list.

Candj - how could I have forgotten Chinatown, or The Usual Suspects, or LA Confidential. Then there are westerns - The Outlaw Josey Wales, High Noon, Shane, Stagecoach and The Searchers (to see two sides of John Wayne), The Shootist. Vertigo, Bladerunner, 2001 Space Odyssey, The Enemy Below (2nd best submarine movie), Crimson Tide (3rd best submarine movie), Hunt for the Red October (4th best etc). Mr Smith Goes to Washington, The Front Page Bubblegum movies Back to the Future Ferris Bueller's Day Off My Stepmother is an Alien Ghost Busters Indiana Jones series Romancing the Stone Missed all the foreign films - Battleship Potemkin, Jules et Jim, Babette's Feast, Jean de Florette & Manon des Sources and more. I give up - when I die want to go to Movie Heaven - every film ever made is neatly filed and ready to watch.

Ten films, only ten! What are you some kind of teaser ? that?s not enough. Let?s go: Casablanca The Departed Das Boot Once Upon a Time in the West The Shawshank Redemption Destry Rides Again The Maltese Falcon Lawrence of Arabia Bridge over the River Kwai Pale Rider But that's tonight's list. Tomorrow it'll be different. In my youth I was the "Film Officer" on various ships - we had access to films yet to be released and a vast library of films to choose from. I was like a kid in a sweet shop. Real reel to reel movies, to be able to handle a rolling reel change was to have achieved Zen master status as a projectionist. I haven't listed a Gene Hackman film yet - The French Connection, Enemy of the State, The Conversation, Missippi Burning, or Clint Eastwood ? Play Misty for Me, Unforgiven, Pale Rider, Bird. More Bogart - The Big Sleep, Treasure of Sierra Madra, The Caine Mutiny, or Jack Lemon in The Apartment and Some Like it Hot, don?t forget the Ealing comedies, or more recent films such as American Gangster. Then there?s Micheal Caine ? some really good stuff amongst the dross ? Get Carter, Billion Dollar Brain and The Ipcress File, Alfie. This is impossible ? I have to stop. Nearly forgot - Ice Cold in Alex - was only discussing this with PGC at the Clockhouse Bookswap Shop this evening.

Sometimes the blindingly obvious needs pointing out - particularly to politicians. If the RDAs have really cost ?15bn to create 125,000 jobs, that's about ?120,000 per job - hardly efficient use of gov't money.

Peckhamgatecrasher Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Bit wet out there, what? > > Happy birthday MM. Thanks - it's Sunday. Forecast is for rain but standing by with Wisden, binos and marmite sandwiches.

In fours years here we've found one drunk sleeping it of in our front garden (I was persuaded to shoo him off by Mrs MM at 1.00am) and have experienced occasional late night party noise - but nothing unreasonable or regular.

Isn't this a bedrock of British justice - "better that 10 guilty men should go free than one innocent man be condemned". NOt sure this quote can be attributed to - and it doesn't always work as we know but it's a sentiment that's heading in the right direction

IT was once recommended by James Nesbitt in a profile of him in the Evening Standard's FRiday supplement - that should help a number of EDF "ers" decide not to crowd out the place.

There's a logic behind the question. In a recent book "The Wisdom of Crowds" the author James Surowiecki argues that crowds of even uninformed people can make better decisions than a single expert. One example, often seen at a village fete, is to ask people to estimate the weight of a cake, or the number of marbles in a jar. The collective average of the many "guesses" is invariably very close to the right answer - while the range of answer (ie single opinion) is often at a wide variance to the correct answer). Another is how, in a crowded street huge numbers of randomly selected and unrelated people can thru' a series of equally large but independent decisions ensure that few if any people are bumped, crowded off the pavement and that people traffic continues to flow - contrast this with police or traffic lights managing traffic at an intersection with the same intersection "managed" by a roundabout when individuals decide when to move / not move. For what it's worth my guess for a wheel arch respray is ?150.00 (at a recognised dealer) or ?75.00 at a back street archway dealer.

Clive haven't you noticed - this government has been the most micro managing ever. Ultra complex taxation, ever more laws restricting the freedom of the individual, an intrusive state looking over everyone's shoulder (CCTV, DNA database, ID cards etc). I could go on but time's wasting. I would support a minimalist government (of any persuasion) that simply dealt with only those matters that cannot be better handled by individuals - and would argue that such matters are very few.

Steve T The Libertarian Alliance website Libertarian Alliance

Steve T has made a key point - one that the attached press release from an organisation I occasionally subscribe to has made.

Blue & Green - good coffee, tempting eats + a bookswap shelf for wasting time. Bishop - good food & drink Nero's - more comfy seating on the sofas - but "it's a chain - waagghh"

I doubt if Freddie wants the job. It didn't work out too well last time and he's still finding his feet having just returned. As Vaughan has opted out of playing in next test what will the side look like? Cook Straus Pietersen Collingwood Ambrose Flintoff Panesar Are I'd suggest givens. The choose from Anderson / Sidebottom (probably not - injured) / Harmison (interesting gamble) / Simon Jones (interesting gamble - but good if it works in preparation for te Ashes next year)/ Bhopara / ??? / ???

Pietersen has been identified on BBC as likley successor - which is ironic given that, had he batted with more concentration and made his century rather than going for glory England might have had another 50 runs in the bag and more time to bowl out S. Africa and not lost the 3rd Test. Vaughan wouldn't have resigned and ........ Still that's the fun of cricket - so many "what if's" "might have beens" "should have been" - and that's just the morning seesion of the first day!

Is it Strauss's time?

Now Vaughan has resigned. Will he be in the squad for Thursday? If he's not captain his batting isn't up to Test match standard.

Don't know - but there's now a "Hog Roast" tall that was doing brisk business on Saturday. As I understand there are only so many licences perhaps the coffee stall has been replaced by this?

I'm better off too - tho' like a number on this thread I see that primarily as a function of my work and effort. However, looking forward I see the country as a whole becoming worse off for next 5 - 10 years as it works through the consequences of the last 11 years. Government spending now exceeds ?500 billion a year. Tax revenues are falling, PSBR is rising - the sooner we all realise that government intervention and government spending isn't the answer the better. UNless we wish to leave a bankrupt country to our children and successors the only answer, to my mind, is to downsize government spending massively - not by the ?20 billion efficiency cuts the Lib Dems and Tories have identified - incremental cuts won't do it. Radical surgery is necessary.

nothing for it - need to go for s drink - unless Ambrose surprises?

And Pietersen has just gone! for 94.