Otta, my kids are pre-primary, in fact we live in the 'black hole' of provision, and I've been on the steering group because I had some applicable knowledge and it seemed like a useful thing to do for the community. In fact, if we're still living here when the time comes, my kids won't even get into the new secondary school. So my work, including hours and hours of leafleting and meetings, has not been to serve my own interest. I can't speak for other steering group members but I thought I should mention you owe someone some money. The issue around the second Harris primary is that there simply is no need for the primary places now, particularly in that area - we've seen no proposals on how the catchment for this school would work. All projections show that South Southwark now has enough places, something that can be seen by the fact that for the first time in several years, it appears that no primary school in East Dulwich or Nunhead is facing a temporary bulge. In fact, even where I live, we are now fairly sure of a place for next autumn.