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Nigello Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I am hoping that posher fast-food places use some > of their profit to buy from excellent suppliers > which care for their animals (before they do the > opposite of caring by slaughtering them). It's probably a discussion for another thread, but I lived on an organic farm for a while which had cows, sheep and sometimes pigs, all out in the fields and very much cared for by the lovely farmers, who also had a mill producing organic animal feed. I too always thought it odd that the animals ended their lives by being slaughtered, however when I thought about it a bit more closely, I realised that if it wasn't for the farm they wouldn't have had lives at all. If people didn't eat meat, there would be no animals in the fields in our countryside.

DulwichFox Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Loz Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > James Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > Bit of a shame it's another meat-obsessed > > restaurant. Seems out of step with the times. > > > Considering that well over 90% of the UK are meat > eaters, I'd say it is well in step with the > times. > > ..and also explains the increase in instances of > Bowel cancer.. > How could that figure explain an increase, unless more people are eating meat, which I really doubt?

Loz Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Sue Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > ... to have our Twitter page tainted by this > totally irrelevant stuff which is giving our > > followers a wholly inaccurate version of my > views is not unimportant to us. > > If it is any consolation Sue, looking at the > Goose's twitter feed as a non-follower, you cannot > see any of Lewis's crap tweets, as you can only > see what you personally tweet/retweet. Oh, thanks, yes that is a consolation, but I don't really understand Twitter. Can our followers see them? Because people are unlikely to be looking at our tweets unless they are already following us.

EDAus Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > You could also consider contacting anyone who > directly supports Lewis i.e. his sponsors > http://britishamericantax.com/ and > https://www.resonancefm.com/ - alerting them to > his behaviour and the actions that you are taking. > It could be argued by their association with this > individual they are bringing their organisations > into disrepute. Thank you EDAus, however I have no wish to be vindictive. All I want is for Lewis Schaffer to stop publicly distorting my views on this issue, to stop posting my full name on Twitter and linking it to my forum name here, and to stop associating those distorted views with music events I run by linking his posts to the music Twitter page so that they appear on that page. My personal views on the SSW campaign have no relevance to the music whatsoever, so one has to wonder exactly what his motive is in doing this. I understand that some people may think all this is unimportant, but my partner and I put a huge amount of work into organising and running these events, including this year a benefit concert for refugees, and to have our Twitter page tainted by this totally irrelevant stuff which is giving our followers a wholly inaccurate version of my views is not unimportant to us.

DulwichBorn&Bred Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > But it's super busy all the times as evident by > the queues. > Can we not do a petition or something ? If the building is no longer fit for purpose, it's not really relevant whether it's super busy at the collection point or not. From the above it looks as if Royal Mail did try to find suitable premises in East Dulwich but weren't able to. The move will certainly inconvenience a lot of people, but it's hard to see what else they could do.

I am going to get legal advice.

Lewis Schaffer has again posted my full name on Twitter. Because he is banned from here he is now responding to my posts on here on Twitter, and again linking them to The Goose Is Out. Please can anybody help. Do you people defending him on here think that this continuing harassment is OK? Because I don't. I presume he is trying to bully me into stopping posting on here.

Maybe time to get a new battery? I'm no expert but I think they run down when they're old? ETA: I have homestart through Britannia Rescue and its been well worth the money eg when all my indicators failed and they came and replaced the fuse. ETA: They also have high speed charging equipment which will charge the battery in situ while you wait.

edhistory Wrote: ---------------------------------------------- > > > New Yorker, Nunheader and Star of Resonance FM?s > Nunhead American Radio Lewis Schaffer brings his > brilliant 5 star Edinburgh comedy show to The Ivy > House for a benefit gig for Save Southwark Woods, > with a donation to London's independent arts radio > station Resonance FM > I hadn't noticed until it was pointed out to me that this benefit "for the woods" is also for a radio station. That seems strange to say the least.

What I find weird is the way they turn people who disagree with their views and/or point out inaccuracies in their statements into "haters". Quite interesting from a psychological viewpoint I suppose.

ruffers Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Seems to me this whole thread has been tainted by > Lewis's aggression. > > There is a conversation to be had for sure, shall > we start again? Good idea. New thread? Different title? Discussion sticking to actual verifiable facts plus opinion clearly stated as opinion? Probably started by somebody opposed to the council's plans but able to unemotionally state why? ETA: Maybe even seeking common ground? Revolutionary idea, I know .....

steveo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks landsberger, that's a half hour playing > with flightradar I'll never get back I bet you enjoyed it though :))

Thanks for bringing us this info, Foxy. That's bad news. First the bank, now this. Seems I shall be making rather more frequent trips to Peckham in the future. Looking on the bright side - Khans, Persepolis, Lidl, Primark and Iceland :))

HopOne Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yes and let's not forget that ad hominem > arguments, of which there have been countless on > this thread, are unpleasant in any discourse. To > continue doing this, when an individual is banned > so cannot defend themselves, is just not cricket > is it? No, Lewis should not have outed anyone on > Twitter. But Sue, you could also engage with the > subject or leave it alone. To do neither is > trolling IMO. > The person is not here to defend himself because he has been banned. And frankly it is hard to see what defence he could have. I consider my posts are relevant, because the person in question is conducting/leading a campaign which is the subject of this thread. The manner in which that campaign is being conducted is clear to see by anyone reading the thread, and in particular the contents and tone of its leader's posts - some of which admin has had to remove altogether. How exactly am I not "engaging with the subject"? I have stated my views clearly on the many threads started on the subject on this forum. Why should I "leave it alone"? Who are you to tell me what I should and shouldn't post? How am I trolling? How would you feel if somebody started to harass you online?

LauraW Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Rather a lot of people on EDF seem to make a hobby > of getting into conflicts. I'm not suggesting > Lewis sought them out here. He was posting on this > forum for a campaign he is involved in. He was indeed. And then he was banned from the forum. Why do you think that was?

LauraW Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It's a campaign and they've been working hard to > make it successful. Do you have a problem with > campaigns or are you just particularly keen for > this one to not succeed? What's it to you, Sue? I have a problem with campaigns which are economical with the truth and which are run using the kind of methods demonstrated on this thread.

LauraW Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Woah, where has this accusation of misogyny come > from? Lewis gets into conflicts with people and > they get into conflicts with him but a Twitter > spat with Sue doesn't make him a misogynist. If > it's relevant, I'm a woman and have known him for > 4 years. > > I'm disappointed now that I know who Sue is that > someone in the folk scene would be in favour of > turning a green space as wonderful as COC into > another waterlogged sterile place to plant graves. > The fact that she's reacted so badly to having her > identity exposed does suggest that she was using > online anonymity as a shield while behaving > trollishly on EDF. 1. It is not "a twitter spat with Sue". It is Lewis Schaffer out of the blue posting my full name on twitter, continuing to do so when asked to stop, and associating the cemetery issue with a twitter page devoted to folk music (and community music) events which my partner and I run locally despite the fact that this issue has nothing to do with those events, and my opinions are mine and mine alone. And it is Lewis Schaffer saying that he will continue to post my full name because I refer to him by his full name on here - carefully omitting to mention that he has posted his full name at the end of his own posts on here, so clearly he is quite happy for people on here to know it! 2. I love trees, and I have an area of woodland dedicated to me via the Woodland Trust. My being "in the folk scene" does not mean that I throw reason to the winds and choose to ignore all the facts about the particular issue being discussed on this thread because I love trees. 3. As civilservant says above, many people on here know who I am in real life. And I post about our folk music events on here, so it is hardly a secret to those who don't know me in real life. That does not mean I want my full name including my surname plastered all over Twitter, and Lewis Schaffer has no right whatsoever to do that. 4. How, exactly, have I "behaved trollishly on the EDF"?

Loz Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Sue Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Lewis Schaffer has posted again on Twitter, > again > > using my surname and again linking me with The > > Goose Is Out! > > > > Can anybody tell me if there is something I can > do > > about this? > > > > ETA: This is harassment. > > Sue, > > I assume this would fall under 'release of private > information' and you an report him directly to > Twitter using this page: > https://support.twitter.com/forms/private_informat > ion > > Alternatively, you can report a single tweet for > abuse with a link in the tweet itself: > https://support.twitter.com/articles/20170408# Thank you Loz. I've reported him to Twitter. He has done this using his Lewis Schaffer twitter account, and has now tweeted my full name three times despite being asked to stop. Considering he put his full name under every post of his on here, I do not think it is unreasonable for others to use it on here. And to post my surname on Twitter is just not on. Sample posts: @TheGooseIsOut Sue (my surname). Come meet with us at cemetery or meet at @Save_Ivy_House Is Sue (my surname) the Sue on the East Dulwich Forum? Do you support cutting down the Woods and digging up graves? Sue (my surname) at the @TheGooseIsOut: Do you support cutting down trees and digging up graves in Nunhead and East Dulwich?

It was not me who introduced the subject of picnics, and as the thread I linked to shows, SSW did indeed plan a picnic in the cemetery and invited people to it. I have asked Lewis Schaffer to stop and he has again tweeted and used my surname and used The Goose Is Out's tag. I am bloody furious. This has got nothing to do with the Goose. The man is a menace. Some of you posting on this thread know him. Please get him to stop. This is far from a joke. The Goose twitter thread is to promote our gigs, not to publicise a total idiot. He now says it's because I've mentioned him by name on here, but every post of his has his name on it!!

Lewis Schaffer has posted again on Twitter, again using my surname and again linking me with The Goose Is Out! Can anybody tell me if there is something I can do about this? ETA: This is harassment.

Thank you bawdy-nan.

Thanks from me too, Foxy x

HopOne Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Sue, you are not dreaming just obfuscating. Excuse me? Firstly, is it really necessary to use words like obfuscating? Are you trying to show all us inferior beings how many long and rarely used words you know? Secondly, how am I obfuscating, exactly? ETA: Here is the thread in question - the very first post invites people to a picnic, after which the discussion includes viewpoints on the appropriateness or otherwise of using a cemetery for picnics if one is not actually visiting a grave. http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?5,1533238 ETA: Lewis Schaffer is now contacting me via Twitter via The Goose Is Out twitter account, and has included my surname in his tweet. I think this is a bloody cheek, not to say an invasion of my privacy. Can none of you other SSW people keep him under control?

I too would like to know the source of this rumour/information. I sincerely hope it isn't true. I have a small letterbox and consequently have to go to Silvester Road quite often to collect things. I don't particularly want to have to increase the size of the letterbox :(

HopOne Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Am not aware of any picnic area > plans Wasn't a picnic one of the first things SSW came on this forum to publicise? Or am I dreaming? It was certainly some kind of family playday in one of the cemeteries ......