Sue

Just found this whilst looking for something else on the net - is this true, or an urban myth??? "We have vivid green parakeets - escaped from a Tarzan film set at Elstree Studios in the 1950's and they have colonized the South of London" :)

I saw a water rat (?vole?) at the edge of the water in Peckham Rye Park a while back - the bit where you go over that little bridge. Also saw a newt in the water there once :) Often see the parakeets (?sp?) and have seen a load of them on someone's bird feeder near the path going up to the woods - blimey, getting like Oz round here :)) Why is it that I get zillions of sparrows and starlings in my garden, when they're the ones whose numbers are supposed to be dwindling, but hardly anything else (pair of blackbirds, resident robin, a wren once, the odd great and blue tit, one collared dove and that's about it) And they get through the most enormous amounts of bird food, they're eating me out of house and home, occasionally helped by a squirrel :) Would love to attract woodpeckers or long-tailed-tits (my fave birds) but so far zilch :'( maybe there aren't any ltts around ED, but I know there are woodpeckers!

snorky Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Er...you do realise where he buys his stock from > dont you ? > > I dont want to pay a premium to be sold onions by > a man in a stripey jumper. > > good for him though, hes making a living out of > it. xxxxxxx Where does he buy his stock from ??? And how do you know ??? :-S

ANYONE INTERESTED - we are having a further meeting of people who would like to help out at the Folk Club - this will be on Sunday 10 February (ie this coming Sunday) at 4pm. It will probably be at the EDT but if you think you might come, might be good to PM me first, though I will confirm the venue on this thread as well nearer the time :) EDIT - SORRY WE HAVE TO BRING TIME OF MEETING FORWARD DUE TO A CLASH OF COMMITTMENTS, WILL POST LATER THIS WEEK TO SAY WHEN EDIT AGAIN!! - As you were, we are back to 4pm at the Plough, see my later post

Google it :) Nu folk - one example, Joanna Newsom. Chance would be a fine thing to get her, mind you .... Folk electronica (sorry, spelling mistake, I went mediaeval or something above) - one example, Tunng. Who sadly are having a rest from gigs after extensive touring, but who I'm sure will be appearing in ED sometime after the summer. Erm, one of the Guardian's top albums of the year And quote from the Observer on their latest album: "If you only buy one folk album this year ... Tunng's Good Arrows (Full Time Hobby), which is where folk has turned up, wired and enchanting, now that we're in the future." Speaking of which, they are friends of Folk2Future and two of them deejay sometimes at the Big Chill Bar with F2F (soon to be resident deejays at the EDFC, huurah). Gypsy punk - Gogol Bordello. Oh, and if none of that appeals, we have booked John Kirkpatrick! :)-D

Sorry been very tied up, I will PM you but probably won't be today, I'm in Oxford and having trouble writing this on someone else's partly-functioning laptop :)) Martin Carthy is keen to play the EDT again (said he'd "love to") - working on a date (tu)

OK, it's all happening, priority now is to book artists, we are starting on this but if anyone has contacts that would be great :) Not sure yet what will happen over the Summer period, so for the moment are looking just up till mid-July. Opening night will be 28 March and we are investigating various possibilities for that. Other nights we need "booked" people are 25 April, 23 May, 20 June and 18 July. Then "Singers Nights" (anyone can come and do their own thing - within reason !!!! No biting heads off small animals !!!!) and will be on 11 April, 9 May, 6 June and 4 July. Some people may like to come along and sing/play with a view to a future booking :) We will need people to help with putting round leaflets etc and also to help out on the night. We've already had some offers, but if anyone else can do anything, however small, that would be great. Also - if anyone has sound engineering skills which are better than ours (not difficult) and can help us with that - and/or lighting - or give us some lessons, that would be brilliant :)-D

KidKruger Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Well done Sue ! > > If you need any help let me know I dunno much > about organising but I spend a lot of time > attending FCs around London (mainly Islington one > and the Cellar Upstairs in Kentish town). > > I'll even get up and do one but I guarantee I AM > crap so please don't laugh if I do, or at least, > don't let me hear it ! > > So if it's being called a Folk Club, what's is > it's scope music wise ? i.e. is there to be a > 'frame' within which the prospective players need > to fit ? UK folk or world ? > > One thing I've been thinking of trying for some > time is an old-time night so maybe I could blag > Tom Paley to come down. xxxxxx I've probably seen you at one of those clubs then :) I'll be contacting people who've expressed an interest by PM shortly, but meantime, no it won't be just UK stuff, we want to keep it quite broad-based whilst still loosely "folk", we'll see how it develops. I don't really want to restrict the music too much because that would also restrict the potential audience base. My personal preference is for a real mix - everything from hardcore traditional finger-in-the-ear stuff (and bear in mind the EDT once had Martin Carthy!) via so-called Nu-Folk and folk/electronika to something I had recently described to me as "gypsy punk" ?!?!? I'm also very keen to attract a wide age range, as at present clubs seem to be very split - either attended by mainly older people (over 50 say) who got into folk in the sixties/seventies, or mainly younger people (teens and twenties), who are getting into it via the Nu stuff, eg the people who go to the Magpie's Nest in Islington. Our plan at the moment (though it may change) is to alternate nights of well(ish) known artists (who will be paid) with Singers Nights, so you are welcome to come and do your thing at the latter, however bad you are :)) Well, within reason :)) We will also be incorporating folk DJs e.g. Folk2Future (who deejay at the Big Chill Bar off Brick Lane once a month and also at the festival sometimes) to play a wide mix of music before and after the Club and during the interval. Must stop, got to work, more later :)-D Exciting times :))

Jah Lush Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yeah...good luck with this. Errr.....I wasn't even > a twinkle in my father's in '55. xxxxxxx Well, in that case, I have no idea how you have developed this strange concept of what people who like folk music (or sing/play it) look like :)):)):)) Sorry, too many likes :) I can't even call it a stereotype, as I don't know anyone who looks like that !!!!

We have a venue - upstairs at the EDT! We have a night - (every other) Friday! We have a starting date - 28 March! Now watch this space !! :)-D

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Keef Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I came in late (as I knew I was in for an all > nighter - not in the CPT), and was sat a the bar > with a couple of lads. xxxxx Ah. Well that limits the possibilities a bit then :))

macroban Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Feed the ducks in the park with a bun > > That's all too beautiful. xxxxxx :) Wasn't that a song?

Keef Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I've avoided this thread so far, as the thought of > the CPT closing fills me with an unparalleled > dread! > > The fact is, that whilst you're totally right Sue > about the lounge bar and the plant things outside, > the owner simply won't spend a penny on it, she > wants rid, and that's that. > > I was actually sitting at the bar in the public > bar on Saturday, so probably saw you. xxxxxx EDIT: Thought there was only one other couple in there and you must have been half of it, but just remembered some more people did come in later on and yes, sat at the bar :) But sorry have no memory whatsoever for faces - very rude I know - and can't remember what anybody looked like. Unless you were the guy in the stetson-type hat, lol :))

Louisa Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Shut yer cakehole. > > Louisa. xxxxx Sorry you seem to be having such a bad day, I usually find a nice walk in the park watching the birds and the squirrels makes me feel better :) Or perhaps you could feed the ducks :) That might cheer you up :)

Brendan Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Now guys, Louisa does have a fair point. We all > know deep down that wanting to live in a place > where the streets aren?t paved in dog shit and the > pubs aren?t violent dives with cracked windows is > not society trying to better itself but rather a > contrived plot to persecute her. xxxxxx :)):)):))

I was in there on Saturday night. I had only been in the lounge bar before, which has a homely atmosphere but always seems a bit run-down, but we went in the public bar on Saturday and I was amazed how nice it was with candles on the tables etc. And so quiet, compared to everywhere else in ED on a Saturday :) Erm, apart from the Uplands of course, but the quiet there is more like the quiet in a mortuary (I imagine). Good beer, staff are friendly, a nice unpretentious place for a pint imo. And hey, its always riveting/rivetting to watch a telly with the sound turned off, especially when it was that programme with the sleb singer lookeylikeys :)) I agree the front definitely needs sorting, those concrete troughs are awful - surely it wouldn't cost much to replace them and put in a few decent low-maintenance plants???

figgins Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Only time I went to the peckham 'plex it was full > of kids using their phones. Grrr. Have never > been since. Have things improved? xxxxxx No. But it's cheap. But the Ritzy in Brixton is much nicer - I'd rather pay more and go there - not far on the 37 :)

fatfightersforever Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > If someone else hasn't already done so must very > belatedly big up chi chi ra ra on > northcross/upland......so many lovely treasures in > here, and as far removed from a chain as you can > get so should surely suit most ED forumites! > Always my first point of call when a special > occasion arises.... xxxxxxxx Erm, they're not an offie are they? What's that got to do with Bossman???? Is CCRR the place that has a load of strange handbags hanging outside on a Saturday??? EDIT: Are you on the wrong thread, perhaps??? :))

Yes, I agree re your first bit. Hurrah re your last bit :) Well of course we don't intend to have crap players if we can help it ..... not as the main act anyway :)) So that's Davy Graham out then :)) (sorry DG fans, I know he used to be good). But we do feel it would be nice for local people to have a place they can come and sing/play in a supportive atmosphere regardless of their ability level. All got to start somewhere, eh? Never heard of the Hippy Mother Club, erm, sadly that sounds like me, what is it????

Jah Lush Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Folk smokes a roll-up and sports a beard and > glasses. > Folk wears a duffel coat on Ban The Bomb marches. xxxxxx Where've you been since - oh, let's say, 1955 ???? :)) I am hoping to have news re the folk club by the weekend, hurrah :)-D

Well how would "newcomers" (sic) know what was being talked about if they have never seen the mural in question before it was painted over??? Why is that funny?? Why does everyone have to have a go at everyone else, I only asked a straightforward question FFS. :-S

Well, who knows ? The definition of "folk music" has been under discussion ever since the "Judas" incident when Dylan went electric - and probably long long long before then ..... If it's covered in FRoots mag or whatever they call themselves now it's probably folk. Or of course roots. :)) :)) EDIT - but let's stop this conversation or the ****** thread will get lounged again, hair trigger mods round here :))

Presumably the owner of the house which has the side wall where the mural was painted would have to agree to another one? I think that would be brilliant. I'd be happy to contribute to a collection to pay for it :) well pay for the paint anyway :)) EDIT: Or maybe we could drop a few hints to Banksy :))

jonsuissy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > danrees Wrote: > > > > As for that useless man who occasionally sells > > railway tickets... > > What do you mean by this. > He's a good guy who does his job very well, even > gets put into hospital after being beaten up for > it. > How dare you say that xxxxxxx I don't know if there is more than one person working there, but I have had problems trying to buy tickets there in the past - on more than one occasion - and once even had to go to Denmark Hill station to buy them because he refused to sell me what I wanted and just told me I couldn't have them !!!! I've heard of people having off days, but that was ridiculous !!!!