Mmm. Alan speak with Blue Tongue! Just finished supper, not an organic ingredient in sight but at least the chicken was free range and I think my fossil fuel supplier meets the current renewable source quota. Sean, I enjoy Alan's (and others) wind ups. Highly entertaining, intelligent (mostly) and thought provoking. It's great the way he fans the flames on subjects which are bound to raise the temperature. He's the EDF devils advocate and I suspect an alter ego. I think Mark should seriously consider having an Alan and Louisa room (with a health warning) so that people know what to expect. However, he does raise some interesting issues albeit by a rather strange route. The term "Organic" has been hijacked by marketeers. Just like GM free, freerange, additive free, low fat etc. I think what Alan and you are trying to say is that people are too quick to accept something based on an intrinsic value without understanding what it really means. In other words in our shallow lives (I'm just as guilty) we all jump on the Organic, Wheat Free and Fair Trade bandwagons like a bunch of sheep.