civilservant

silverfox, I am sorry if you think that I'm running with a lynch mob here I can't answer for the Daily Telegraph article - indeed it is one of a piece with the kind of mischief-making that that paper and others like it make a living from. My problem, and the one that is relevant to this thread, is that ignorant people then take up that argument and run with it. Jelly didn't have to start this thread, after all, and use this story to damn a whole religion on the basis of one bad apple (and we don't know the truth of the story - only what the DT and the DM chose to report). I am pointing out that Jelly has, on another thread, attempted to defuse criticism of a group to which she claims to belong, using a 'few bad apples' argument. This is hypocrisy. I have not got a problem with the Catholic church. I too believe that you can't damn a whole group because of the behaviour of a few. But when people start using special pleading for their own, and deny the same gair hearing to others, I feel very angry. Jelly, you are a disgrace

on another thread, jelly excused the Catholic church from association with the behaviour of child-abusing Catholic clergy thus: ------------------------- > To be fair, Jews are just as guilty as Muslims of practicing genital mutilation. ... Cristians (sic) - especially > Catholics, of which I am - are taking an underhand bashing on the strength of their faith's unfortunate association > with a few very bad apples among a far greater number of good. not just racist and disreputable, but hypocritical as well don't waste your time on her

I recently re-read Neuromancer and was re-blown away As an old SF trufan, I second the endorsements of Ian M Banks and China Mieville. El P's assessment of The City and the City and the Bas-Lag books is spot on, but Embassytown follows the Bas-Lag pattern IMO: he begins enthrallingly well, does China, but can't quite seem to work out how or when to finish. It's probably significant that The City and the City was one of his shortest and least Gothic books. Polite note to Bon3yard - it's SF, never Sci-Fi!

up up and away - johnny mann

gwod wrote >Surely schedule mums feed their kids if they get hungry between feeds, and equally, surely demand fed babies fall into a bit of a routine. The distinguishing criterion seems to be maternal intention. A schedule mum would not feed her child between scheduled feeds, by definition. By feeding a child who cries - from hunger? for any other reason? can you really tell with a small baby? - between scheduled feeds, a schedule mum stops being that and becomes instead 'a mother who tried but did not manage to feed to a schedule'. And it's perfectly normal for a demand-fed baby to fall into a routine. Is the mother baby-led in determining when the baby eats? Then she would be feeding on demand even if these feeds were so spaced as to give the impression of a schedule. ETA Not at all helpful that the research is being cast as a 'baby's future attainment v. mum's current well-being' type battle

Penguin68 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Theft is wrong, theft of > something of no value is wrong and pointless. I agree, and it is very sad that these people are teaching their children to steal too. Whether they are North Cross Road daffodils or Goose Green daffodils is hardly the point.

just one look - the hollies

brown girl in the ring: boney m

ok, ok, it's just banter and BBW - who (s)he? a very entertaining thread, so thanks Ggbr!

I'm beginning to wonder why Gingerbeer seems to have nothing better to do than to flirt with her(?) prospective ED homies Maybe she(?) needs some local 'waived chums' a la Michael P?:)

Don't give up on me - solomon burke

See http://raybradburyboard.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/6891083901/m/8881066863 for a spookily similar quest! I've never read this story myself but will seek it out, as it clearly left an impression on its (young) readers.

what applespider said

So the reason for the unsightliness is the football?

serial offenders? see http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?5,247740,247740#msg-247740

deserted Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I think this thread has completely solved the > issue. > > Clearly whether to have a Waitrose / M&S is very > controversial and divisive for the community, > causing lots of arguments and problems. > > It is, therefore, a bad idea. completely wrong! this thread brings the community together! - it gives them a safe space to vent about something safely trivial - it allows ED newbies to enjoy the warm fuzzy feeling of getting with the natives to bellyache about the total lack of local shopping opportunities - it allows law-abiding citizens to chuck metaphorical bricks at local 'eyesores' such as Iceland and the CoOp - it keeps our local councillor in the public eye as the onlie begetter of this thread 29 pages and counting - long may it run!

yup, as Sue says, plans are indeed afoot for a Crystal Palace Road street party - but probably not on the day of the the Jubilee Some reasons why - the day of the Jubilee day is very early in the year, so high risk of cold weather/rain (like last year's ultra-sodden Big Lunch) - the Jubilee is being marked by extra Bank holidays, so high risk of low attendance as lots of people will be going away (like at last year's sparsely attended Big Lunch) - and last but not least, the republican spirit seems to burn bright in the breasts of the Crystal Palace Road Street Party Organizing Committee (or CPRSPOC to those in the know) Anyway, we are waiting to hear from Southwark if they'll let us close the road for free later in the year. KK, PM me if you need info about getting permission.

they probably heard about the party at lousmith's - seems to have been quite a do ;-)

last train to clarksville - monkees

The palm tree had a few new fronds sticking out of its crown the last time I looked, two days ago

Did all your froglets from last year move away, Sue? I do hope a few stuck around!

Saw a woodpecker having a go on our suet ball feeder today - makes a change from next door's grey squirrels!

freedom train - peggy lee

mr tambourine man - byrds

DJKQ, SP doesn't 'acknowledge that speed had nothing to do with the accident', just states that s/he does not know the facts. Most of us are in the same position - we don't know the facts - so I don't understand what you mean by 'data'. Since all we've got is anecdote, I'll add my own to the mix. I too have seen quite a few racers on that stretch of the road while walking my dog on Goose Green and thereabouts, and not just the ones trying to beat the traffic lights. IMO that crossing hardly adequate for a junction that serves a school, a children's playground, a green space that's used by dog-walkers, as well as a parade of shops. If we haven't had more accidents at that spot, that's just testimony to better pedestrian road-sense than a lot of the drivers who've posted on this thread would credit.