ImpetuousVrouw

Lol!

"East Dulwich" Forum?

Hill Dweller - do you realise you're coming over as a bit of a tit? Just thought I'd be neigbourly and let you know, incase you're unaware of it.

You could say that the police officer who was hounded out of his job, or the falsley accused whatisname may also consider themselves to be losers in this matter.

I think it depends on whether the person you are buying it foe is a woman or a man, and if you are in a relationship with them or not. An ex-bf's mother bought me a cookery book once and I was none too pleased as i do not see myself as a chained to the kitchen sink kind of girl. Anything which reinforces gender stereotypes is not something I'd give or be be pleased to receive.

Lol, only if they are rubbish!

Tarot, do you think women might see men as bits of meat instead?

42. You can never have too many pairs of socks!

My prediction for 2011 - The recession will become worse than the 80's and more people will lose their jobs and homes than the 80's.

Lol, I remember this one.

I hope you do tell them quickly just incase he is an abusive ex and manages to get hold of her. It would be awful if you found out on the news that someone matching his description hacked his ex-wife to death after tracking her down at a refuge.

Impressive though!

Sue did espouse an unpopular view and in EDF terms put her head above the parapet, then was promtly set upon. I don't think it's complicated.

Ladymuck Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Gosh, that sounds exactly like my strain of flu > IVR - though I only stayed in bed for half days > over 2 days. Felt proper shitty though. Now just > snotty and coughing like a smoker with a 60 a day > habit. NICE! Yes it was the worse flu I've ever had and was pretty scary when I started getting breathing problems. It loosened up and that was when the gunk started coming up, but I had contemplated calling an ambulance at one point because I was really worried.

I've been ill since last Wednesday. Started with a sore throat and headache, then very high temperature, vomiting, problems with breathing, coughing up untold gunk and could barely get up to get to the toilet. Stayed in bed for 4 days and have recovered from all but the horrible cough, snotty nose and sore throat in the past 2 days.

Was there any evidence pointing to an abduction? I am sure that the police originally accepted that story but changed their mind when they found no evidence pointing to an abduction. Isn't that when they decided to bring in the sniffer dogs?

I agree with HAL. I think the personal attacks on Sue are disturbing me more than any other content on this thread.

I think the thing about which theory is most likely in any situation would depend on the evidence available. In this situation there are 2 theories that most people think most likely to have happened. One is that Madeleine was abducted by a stranger and the other that she died in the flat. I am unaware of any evidence that supports the abduction theory, even circumstantial so as the only evidence available points to Madeleine dying in the flat, it seems that this is the most likely theory. As Sue pointed out you could also say that she might have been taken by aliens, or eaten by a wolf or something. These could be theories, but without even circumstantial evidence pointing towards them, they would seem to be very unlikely theories.

I agree about how one sided the blogs are, but if you can sift through that and just concentrate on the relevant evidence, it does make an abduction look less likely than an accidental death in the apartment.

I was interested to know how long after a body has died that a cadaver dog can detect them. I found an article in the Independent that states: "One of the questions surrounding human cadaver dogs is how soon after death they can recognise a corpse, and how long a "fresh" corpse must remain in one place for a dog to detect that it has been there. In a study published last year, the forensic pathologist Lars Oesterhelweg, then at the University of Bern in Switzerland, and colleagues tested the ability of three Hamburg State Police cadaver dogs to pick out ? of a line-up of six new carpet squares ? the one that had been exposed for no more than 10 minutes to a recently deceased person. Several squares had been placed beneath a clothed corpse within three hours of death, when some organs and many cells of the human body are still functioning. Over the next month, the dogs did hundreds of trials in which they signalled the contaminated square with 98 per cent accuracy, falling to 94 per cent when the square had been in contact with the corpse for only two minutes. The research concluded that cadaver dogs were an "outstanding tool" for crime-scene investigation." Link to full article here

There is some evidence that the father may have taken her off to another house they owned on the other side of the town on the evening she was reported missing, about 40 minutes before the police were called, if I remember correctly.

I hate the whole vigilante hysteria thing, but I have to say that I've gone from someone who didn't really have an opinion to someone who thinks the McCanns may have tried to hide the fact that Madeleine had a fatal accident in the apartment after reading a lot of the evidence that Sue has laid out. They don't seem to be monsters so I doubt that they would have hurt her deliberately, but I do think given the evidence available that they may have considered that they could lose their positions as doctors and all that would entail if the truth came out and therefore decided that they had to cover her accidental death up. I think when the evidence is looked at rationally, this seems to be the most plausible explanation.

Yep, snot here too near the Library and it has been exported to Catford by an unfortunate friend who'd rather I hadn't shared.

Dickensman, are you wearing a dirty old mac by any chance?

I wonder if foreign anthropologists write this up as British fertility worship?