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Easy option! many people here have openly admitted that working is far easier than staying at home. And no not many women do make much once they take into consideration childcare but you still make enough to pay for childcare in the first place which is more than others have. If you don't consider yourself rich then fine, no one is saying that, but you certainly do not live in poverty. Furthermore, not only is going to work often easier than staying at home for some women, but they also do it to keep themselves in their career. So whilst being at a financial stalemate they'll still be getting something out of working whereas some women may not have had a 'career' to start with, just low paid menial work.

Um furley-lap, what about those that would like to go back to work but their work doesn't pay enough for a nanny or indeed any other kind of childcare, as many many peoples' don't! Gosh, it's not all about choices furley-lap, those who the children's centres are aimed at have very few choices actually! Like LondonMix said, it's not about moral judgements at all, it's simply a way of means testing. Yes maybe a very black and white means test but a means test all the same which is a very good thing considering there are desperately few resources and they have to be going to those most in need. Families with nannies aren't most in need, simple as- I actually can't see why there's so much hysteria about this. Those who have nannies already have choices that many don't, and access to good childcare that also many people don't. It's not a question of, oh you have a nanny therefore must be wealthy and thus are excluded from community services. Those who have few choices, single parents, parents from poor and disadvantaged backgrounds are most in need of these services. If resources were aplenty then of course there should be equal access but there aren't.

I'm always shocked at furniture prices, and think most is made pretty badly- which is why I never buy new anymore, and the EDF is the perfect place to get second hand furniture :-)

Sorry but you kind of brought it on yourself emc. To imply that leaving your lines be and not injecting them with poison is 'letting yourself go' as though botox is the same as eating right and exercising is pretty pathetic, and I don't think you were joking! I actually can't think of anything more depressing than 'botox parties'. I mean ffs! you're obviously aiming them at women too. I think you'ld have to be pretty shallow to go to and enjoy a botox and fillers party! If you've got lines like Gordon Ramsey then maybe botox would be a godsend, otherwise I'd stay well clear.

Absolutely agree Jessie. I have a lady come into my work who is proabably in her 80s and she looks absolutely beautiful. She wears a little make up and dresses so elegantly, she truly makes me smile whenever I see her. There's nothing wrong with taking pride in your appearance, I do it myself with make up, looking after my hair, my body, eating well etc, but it's the obsession in trying to stay/look young that I do have a problem with. Plastic surgery doesn't make you look younger, it just makes you look like you've had plastic surgery! (obv. I know botox isn't as extreme as plastic surgery but it's a slippery slope...

Botox looks horrendous, just grow old gracefully!

Asked my Mum and she said exactly what emc has just said. Good luck with it all.

That may be so Otta, but then don't say one of your products has/does something that it doesn't! Just say you're not sure! Otherwise you are misleading the customer. I have learnt though that if I ever go anywhere like Curry's that I do my homework first as the staff really don't know anything about their products in such places.

You might not even be able to livestream it with mobile broadband, I can never use skype or really watch anything because the bandwidth (I think that's what I mean!) isn't strong enough. Maybe just record the match at home and watch it then? don't think it's really worth the hassle otherwise.

I have to say dulwichgirl, your constant threads about buying up property, what the market is doing, making investments etc makes me sick to the stomach and kind of depressed. You talk as if everyone on this forum has so much damn money and all own at least one property- well we don't! I'm sick of people seeing property as an investment instead of a home. Many of my generation will probably never be able to buy a property and the way things are going are being completely priced out of the rental market too so where does that leave us? I just want a bloody roof over my head, not an investment! I know I don't have to read the thread so I shouldn't complain, plus I suppose your slight obsession with it is mirrored in the media but honestly, give it a rest!

Hi JLCK, Sorry I can't help but may I suggest you start a new thread about your cat. It might help?

You seriously don't need that long. My Mum drives me mad about this, constantly badgering me to get to the airport at least 2 and a half hours early. I just ignore her of course! 1- 1 and a half is more than enough. I give myself that for long haul flights and I've never missed a plane, so far!

Really? you can buy kids clothes from Primark, from H&M, from Sains and Tescos etc. All seem pretty cheap to me

rent! (sorry DG2, we're not all rich on this forum, despite your protestation that you are poor!) And I'm sorry but flights to Australia/NZ and Thailand were A lot more expensive 10 years ago. When I was 18 I travelled around Thailand and there was no way you were getting flights for less than 700. Now if you book early, flights to Bangkok can go as little as 350/400. You couldn't get to Australia either for less than a grand but again you can get them for around half that now if you book early. Flights are not straight forward in any way because the more popular a route comes, the more flights going to that destination, the more competitive the prices. So it depends on the destination.

Me too WoD

'return tickets anywhere in the world used to be around 400 pounds'.. ummm.. no they didn't!!

Hmmm so John, the 19 year old looking for work on another section of the forum, are you masquerading as Tammie and trying to lure women to an Ann Summer's party?!

my thoughts exactly womanofdulwich!

so despite my explanation to the postman of how the addresses work in our road,my post is still being put throught the wrong door! aghhh!just called the Royal Mail customer services despite being a 0845 number and lodged a complaint. bloody ridiculous.

Yes! I thought it was just me! It's driving me mad- I can't understand why it`s happening at all because I never used to have any problems. Mine switches between T mob and Orange too so it`s nothing to do with that.

This is absolutely awful and I really really feel for you. I'm sorry to get so 'p.c' though, but buntysammy, you're comment on Dss benefits is really quite offensive. Dss benefits means housing benefits and you'll find that most people who claim housing benefits ARE actually in work, and furthermore are certainly not criminals!!! I'm sorry but I don't like what you've implied here. Let's not get confused by people claiming benefits, whether you think they deserve them or not, to criminals please! My heart really does go out to you BecsBex.

Just to add my recent eperience- my post at the moment is being put through the wrong door. I only dicovered this when I ordered something and it seemed to be taking forever to arrive. I spoke to the company I ordered it from and they confirmed they'ld sent it over a week ago. Eventually my neighbour (who had been receiving my post) put my letters through my letterbo and lo and behold the parcel was being held at the delivery office, and had been there for over a week. I stopped the postman today and ended up having to explain where the post goes on my road- and it really isn't that hard! He is new as he's not the postman I used to have but it's really quite frustrating when it's really just common sense that something for an address with 'basement' or 'lower' in it would go downstairs not upstairs! so I'd suggest if anyone is missing post to check with their neighbours whether they'ld received anything by mistake.

Gumtree is just about the worst place you can look for a house!!! full of estate agents putting out ads for reasonable priced places that don't exist. Don't do it! I'm so sorry to hear about this right-clicking. I know how you feel as I've also been hit by a rent increase and changes in housing benefit which together have meant me no longer being able to afford to live in my flat so I'm moving back to my Mum's to share a bedroom with my sister :-/. You have a have a family so it's far far worse for you. I can't believe your landlord has increased your rent so much, ?150 extra a month is a phenomenal amount, have they no shame?! the sad thing is because no one can afford to buy anymore it's a landlord's market and they know they can charge whatever they like and someone out there will pay it, meaning those struggling at the bottom are literally left homeless.

because in your OP you said 'Haytch is a standard pronunciation in Irish English '!

minder I'm a bit confused what that story has to do with a. what the thread is about and b. why it was addressed to me! I'm very much working class myself but I pronounce aitch 'aitch'!