zeban

Absolutely agree Tarot. Think it's quite an awful thread actually.

For me it's those Boots ads...agggghhhhhhhhh

Great news. Thank goodness she's ok.

"If people have taken something a particular way, then it is true, whether intended or not." Absolute nonsense.

edcam Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ClareC Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > If a person is offended the result is the same > > whether offence was intended or not. Once that > > offence is realised, on the basis it was not > > intended, then it can be rectified. Failure to > do > > so would imply the interpretation is correct. > > > > The problem with the written word is it can > easily > > be interpreted in a way that was not necesarily > > intended. > > I don't see why, in the case of this subject, all > parents should feel criticised. I don't think > anybody here has criticised ALL parents. If they > have, they're an idiot. As I said before, common > EDF misconception, which implies that it is taboo > to make any comment on how the behaviour of some > impacts on others. (tu)

Totally totally totally agree edcam. In fact you've hit the nail on the head with what this thread is really about. And why many Mum's seem to get very aggressive and nasty when people point this out. But not all are being tainted by the same brush so I think it's ridiculous how nasty they can get. Of course we all get defensive about things close to our hearts but everyone is entitled to their own opinion and if it's different to yours so what! I'm not against drinking when parenting though think it is probably best kept separate- ie. drinking when the kids aren't around. If drinking socially it's pretty embarassing to see your parents drunk! But on a more serious note if parents are drinking to relieve stresses and difficulties in life (which can often lead to a dependence on alcohol without even realising it) then it's not great to pass on this message to your children- that alcohol is the way to deal with stress and difficulties in life.

hellosailor Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- your posts have given me a > bit of light relief and something to have a giggle > about if anything! Ditto hellosailor with your posts!

Huguenot Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > No idea what you're getting cross about DaveR, I > was responding to SJ's report that Jon Snow was > complaining about wearing one outside of Sunday > being a recent thing. SJ didn't mention anything > about opprobrium being a new thing, so I didn't > refer to it. > > I don't have to either ignore it or fail to > understand it - SJ didn't mention it. > > As for your assertion about being able to share > the sentiments about Remembrance Sunday, I agree > with it. So what's your beef you silly boy? I was > merely pointing out that if you go against the > flow with something people feel passionately about > you're going to attract attention from pointlessly > angry people looking for a fight like your good > self. > > That aside, BB100 are you now arguing that > children shouldn't wear poppies because they're a > weapon? > > I'm sure if he is as gentlemanly and sensitive as > you describe, he will recognise that this is a > time when he should put his own ego to one side in > respect to the sensitivities and sacrifices of > others. > > That would be the honorable thing to do, and he > will be the better man for it. Not doing so seems > unnecessary and petulant. I'm with Huguenot 100%

Totally agree Bob. People are so weird sometimes!

Absolutely KidKruger

hellosailor Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > zeban Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > > Oh dear HH, being b**chy AGAIN!!! > > Zeban, with respect, anyone who can remember the > posting history between you and HH would say that > for her to leave it at having a wry smile over my > joke on this thread would be you getting off > pretty darn lightly. It's a miracle that she > hasn't responded more vigorously to what many > would describe as your repeated bullying of her. > Any yes ,I'd also like to know, why is it > interesting that 'the Mums' have started a thread > on this in the family room!? With respect hellosailor, how on earth can you start a sentence with 'with respect' and then accuse me of bullying'! Bullying!!!! I think you'll find HH tries to tear you to shreds if you have a different opinion to her so I'd suggest IF you are going to accuse anyone of bullying it would be her and also possibly yourself if you look deep within and read your posts again. Please feel free anyone to take a look at this so-called 'bullying' and then let me know what you think. What the truth is is it goes a little something like this: (As Marie81 has already found out on this forum), if you so much as dare to have a different opinion to the Mums in the family room they unfortunately gang up on you and try to belittle your opinion. Marie81 sums it up nicely in this post: hellosailor: just calm down, you have gone way off topic as this thread was about babies and prams in pubs which I do not have a problem with. The nice thing about this forum is you can get a range of different opinions from different people and I'm entitled to have my opinion without you repeatedly challenging me. I don't know why you felt the need to repeat our converstation in the family forum where what I said was taken completely out of context. For some to say I can't comment cos I don't drink or have children is rubbish, I do drink and am often in the pubs in Dulwich so can comment on this topic. You should apppreciate the fact that people do have different opinions and not take it personally as if I am criticising your parenting skills which of course I most certainly am not! So just leave it be now as I tried to and lets get back on topic shall we?!

Nette, I think I'm a little bit in love with you ;-)

Sorry for all of my edits on my previous post by the way. A lot of tired spelling mistakes due to just getting back from seeing 'We need to talk about Kevin' ;-)

So is reasonably priced. I mean what does that mean to you because it may mean something different to me!

helena handbasket Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hellosailer- :)-D (and that's a full pint for me, > thanks!) .......nothing to add since discussing > parenting with someone who hasn't done it and > discussing drinking with someone who doesn't > really do that either is the curse of this forum. > > > But I have to tell you, this is GOLD: > > hellosailor Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > zeban Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > >I did actually expect an > > > apology as she could see what she was doing > but > > > when I looked at her she didn't say a thing! > > > > Maybe she melted on the spot Oh dear HH, being b**chy AGAIN!!! Well I am rather hot, maybe even women find me so, so maybe you're right hellosailor ;-) Interesting how the Mums have started up a thread on this in the family room! http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?29,783622

Completely agree Loz.

If she'ld been saying sorry or looked like she needed a hand of course I would have given it to her. I didn't look at her in anger I looked at her to see if she realised what she was doing as I thought she can't be but she looked at me, and carried on doing it without saying sorry. She was simply being rude unfortunately.

Marmora Man Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Wear a poppy, don't wear a poppy - everybody's > choice and should never be forced. > > What I, personally, dislike is the habit of > wearing white poppies as representing a protest > against the red poppy's "glorification of war". > This is a total misunderstanding - the red poppy > is a symbol of remembrance to acknowledge the > suffering and pain of war. Again, completely agree. The red poppy is in no way a glorification of war, and if anyone thinks this they've clearly missed the point completely and quite frankly are rather daft.

Haha! brilliant. Those buggies are definitely used as battering rams at times, I got on the bus the other day and a woman behind me was pushing her pram into my legs. I did actually expect an apology as she could see what she was doing but when I looked at her she didn't say a thing!

Completely agree LDALY. I do always feel concerned for pets and animals around this time, as I imagine many people do, and if this thread had been about them I'm sure people wouldn't have slated the OP.

I don't know about anyone else, but I was really disappointed with this second series compared to how fantastic the first was.

david_carnell Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I think the Hitler comparison is a little far > fetched. These aren't symbols of identification or > used to single out minorities. Nor are those > people subsequently being marched off to gas > chambers. So, please, leave Godwin alone and use a > more appropriate metaphor. Not only is it > distasteful but it invalidates your latter > arguments. > > Your comparison to a crucifix doesn't stand either > since poppies aren't symbols of religion but > rememberance. > > I'm not altogether comfortable with a school > enforcing this sort of thing but accusations of > fascism are just daft. > > I wonder perhaps, if the white poppy of pacifism > would be an alternative protest for those students > who disagree with the policy? Absolutely agree with your post David Carnell, 100%. I'm actually quite disgusted BB100 that you'ld even make such a comparison. Perhaps you should think a little harder before writing your posts.

Get rid of Frankie and Janet. Liking Mischa B, Little Mix, and Marcus this week

Absolutely pablo12. Hope you find somewhere better next year.

That's ridiculous that they would charge that much. I guess just never go there again. There are so many other displays that are either free or cheaper than that.