*wonders whether she should put her ideas forward* hmmmm I think this is all getting a bit too deep and not getting to the point of where to hold the next drinks. Yes we've established certain pubs are off putting for some and those are happy to sit it out if the overal decision is to go to said place (nearly thru wiv rambling) just as I mentioned I would miss out on the next drinks if it was decided to go to a place completely off the beaten track, as it were... I wouldn't expect everyone to change just coz of me as annaj and b#5 wouldn't...