KalamityKel

I'm sorry :-$ I wont do it again (fibs)

I'm guessing the mentioning of the under 14yr old bit could be in place as maybe there are children on site (on the premises not in the bar) and it is there for their protection as the licensing act requires? I've seen a fair number of application forms incomplete or have restrictions mentioned that bare no relevance to the business. Sometimes it is there to cover anything that may become an issue. Remember this is a variation of their current license which may have other restrictions already in place. I certainly don't read it as an open invitation for ages 14-17 to come along get drunk and have a "good time".

remember to use used ones i.e ones that r soggy (steady on lads! and rosie :p ) ull be w8ing a long time wiv ones needing a wetting first...

DJKillaQueen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > 112 - No person under fourteen shall be in the bar > of the licensed premises during the permitted > hours unless one of the following applies a.He is > the child of the holder of the premises licence > b.He resides in the premises, but is not employed > there c.He is in the bar solely for the purpose of > passing to or from some part of the premises which > is not a bar and to and from which there is no > other convenient means of access or egress d.The > bar is in railway refreshment rooms or other > premises constructed, f itted and intended to be > used bona fide for any purpose to which the > holding of the licence is ancilla. In this > condition "bar" includes any place exclusively or > mainly used for the consumption of intoxicating > liquor. But an area is not a bar when it is u sual > for it to be, and it is, set apart for the service > of tablemeals and alcohol is only sold or supplied > to persons as ancillary to their table meals. > > I think that pretty clearly says that any person > 14 or over can be in the bar at any time. There > are seperate clauses for the sale of alcohol > itself (to persons over 18 only). It is part of > the terms of the license being applied for and > means that if a group of 14 years olds what to go > to that bar late on a Friday night, they can > (although the management reserve the right to > refuse entry). It doesn't say anything of the sort! it clearly says "no person" and then with the standard exceptions. It is a standard part of most licensing to premises that have a bar and sell alcohol. Selective reading and misinterpretation could damage an objection...

DJKillaQueen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I notice that in the liscensing small print that > any person over 14 year of age is allowed to be in > the bar (not buying alcohol of course)...that > seems like an open invitation to underage drinking > to me. They are supposed to ask for ID if someone > 'looks' to be underage. But all they need is for > an adult to buy alcohol at the bar for them. That > I think is something that can be taken up with the > council....to restrict the hours that 14-18 year > olds can be on the premises - after all should any > 14 year old be in a bar at 2am in the morning? This is standard licensing and only applicable to those who are attending a full sit down meal and during serving time only... I didn't think the adventure bar offered full meals in any case? It simply means that for children who reside at the premises as a means for access/exit (from A to B).

Why should we be comparing ourselves with troubled towns/cities as if we're "not that bad"? Is behaviour experienced in these areas something to aspire to? Surely it would be better to work to avoid turning into areas such as those mentioned above then to embrace it willingly as an inevitable evolution? I'm not against late licensing but I do think there should be more control on numbers and typess of place in one small area that hold them. In other areas licenses are staggered easing the burden of people leaving bars/clubs etc and avoiding trouble from rival establishments (not that there's much of it here). I still don't see the demand for the extension.

I dont like shoes :-|

DJKillaQueen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > KalamityKel Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > You'd have to build a strong case up with the > > police and the council > > If people are taking illegal drugs on the premises > (as has been alluded to) and you can prove it then > that would be grounds for revoking the > license....just an idea. The onus is on the > premises to do all they can to prevent illegal > drug use. I hope you're not suggesting a plant! Obviously I'm reading that wrong (hopefully) Annyhow, that would not be your case (objection) but the case for the police... plus if it was proven by means of a raid, for example, then the place could be shut down immediately

You'd have to build a strong case up with the police and the council

anonymous_third_part Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > if you don't like living just off lordship lane > because of bars that are open till 1am - then move > away. > > I chose not to live just off lordship lane as > wherever there are bars and shops there is higher > crime - there are loads of houses that you can > move to. I don't see why the majority of people > should be stopped from drinking. > > pathetic nimbyism What a ridiculous and completely pointless comment! Easy to do if you are considering moving to the area but not if you've been a resident off of one of the side roads in question for more years than many of the businesses currently on the strip have existed. What "majority" of people are you talking about that have the need to continue drinking to the hours suggested? This thread is not about stopping drinking but the issue of Adventure Bar's application to extend their current license hours. Is there really such a great demand (in addition to other neighbouring bars open to the early hours) to justify their request?

How to object

Mentioned application I'm guessing this is the one

fairy careful how u ask for company. There are some very strange people on here. So I'm told

Oooo I like the comparison wiv Narnia and Santa... any resemblence? ;-)

Psssst Narnia (the place) aint real ya know :p

Uve never had catnip b4? ::o u havent lived!

and ignore the majority of things W**f says :))

used tea bags?

unlikely to be ya broadband ontheedge (tu)

Sue what package are you looking for? I mean what makes Orange more appealing than other suppliers that is taking your fancy? I'm with Orange and they are ok I guess although speeds can be a bit up and down, customer support and helpines are not particularly helpful - as quoted by the help guy once "I'm not here to help just here to find out what your problem is" and you can be bounced around from department to department (of which I'm sure they all just sit next to one another in a far off place in the world). They do however, usually do what they say they do and change over is quite speedy and the instructions easy and clear to follow/understand.

Receipt print out can b adjusted but the tech ppl like to kick up a fuss about having to adjust things or re-progamme (point and click) and many often fail to understand y anyone would want to possibly do something outside of their own box... IME anyhow... It's beyond me

Wot was the outcome? Any interesting ideas? I'm right nosey ya know!

Cat in a Hot Tin Bus Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Kitten > > Belly rubs get me purring, but not too low I may > bite and scratch *dangles catnip infront of kitten* ;-)

Theyre selling the concert bowl? ::o

woofmarkthedog Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yeah.... > > > But what's with those "naff" cabinets > > > Blimey, get with the programme & order a skip > > > > W**F > > P.S Are you friends with " Uptown James " by any > chance..? Cabinets? Blimey where on earth do u see those? R u blind? ::o