KalamityKel

Thought that said orange then :-$

I'm a kalamity :))

Now now lets just all play nicely. Contradictory comments have no place on an online not real world forum anyhow dont ya think axeman? :)) So the next drinkies are this Friday eh? Where does the time go!

Halfords fit car radios...

It's the bus depot but not the main part - 3 buses (number of buses not the route - to save mass panic) have apparently been ruined so far.

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Lee Scoresby Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > Kamamitykel: You seem to think this is just an > attack on bus drivers. It isn't, not at all. We > have all experienced a wide range of drivers, from > cheerful and helpful to the very opposite. I think > a reasonable criticism of drivers is that many of > them fail properly to supervise their vehicles - > in the matter of prams being all over the place, > for example. But, I truly appreciate that it is a > difficult and stressful job, one that is better > respected in other European countries. > You're missing my point. It's not about who has a stressful job (we all do!) If you put yourself as a passenger in any of the situations I mentioned (fulls buses and all that) would you really have spoken up at your frustrations at the time and to a proper effect which isnt a moan? Would you have asked/told people to get off the bus for example? A lot of the issues you've mentioned are also to do with passenger attitude aswell not just the bus company (note company not driver). Anyway as mentioned by other users... if it bothers you so much go complain to the appriopriate people. Start a campaigne. Rally real supporters. Do something productive instead of moaning on here eh? :)) Good luck with it all (tu)

Deary me it's not really THAT much of a bad service. It's just public transport for you. I think you need to look a little more outside the box Lee Scoresby Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > This may have been an EDF topic since year dot, I > don't know. Whether or not, it is an increasingly > pressing issue for those of us not bombing round > in cars. Basic mobility. > > For aeons the 484 service was lousy. Several years > ago it had its socks hoiked up to become sort-of > acceptable. Now it's complete and utter shit. Really? hmmmm > > There are just not enough buses running. It's > supposed to be a 10 minute service. These clowns > don't manage more than 2 or 3 buses an hour these > days. I waited 45 minutes for a 484 last week, and > 25 minutes again today (Tues). You'll soon be complaining when bus fares sore to cover extra services besides I think you'll find services are quite regular or least if you are waiting for a bus in Camberwell which is not a 484 you see many start off their journey from the garage while still waiting for your bus > When the bus does come it's a cattle truck - > dangerously and illegally packed. Are drivers just > kind-hearted, or have they been instructed by > their bosses to "pack 'em in" ? have you tried asking people to GET OFF the bus? No? Didn't think so. It would be a nasty result I can assure you. Perhaps directing that particular thought towards passengers may be more productive and appropriate. > > The other thing resulting from this gross > overcrowding is people being left at stops. That just can't be helped. I'm sure there are a good number of potential "passengers" that are only going to travel a few stops. Maybe you should create a system that deals with people who are quite capable walking a few stops but are just too lazy > > Nor can these transport halfwits stream their > service at anything approaching equal times > between buses - it's totally random, completely > unpredictable. The most pronounced example is the > convoy of multiple vehicles, with the resultant > famine of provision for long periods before and > after. What's the largest convoy a reader has seen > (any service) ? My record is eight 343s. Nice > > Any vaguely intelligent and accountable transport > system would increase provision during the 3 > identifiable daily weekday peak periods: morning, > after school, and after work. Have these morons > even noticed ? As single-deck buses this is one > time when a convoy of two 484s makes sense. > Sometimes, indeed, there is a second bus, often > there isn't. How can the Londoner at the stop tell > ? Answer: he or she cannot, no way. No signage of > such a pairing on any bus, and most drivers have > taken a vow of utter silence. Not point even answering that > Other SE London services noticeably deteriorating > are the 37, which used to provide an excellent > service over to Brixton and points west, and the > once totally reliable 343. I think you'll find the 37 has improved quite considerably over the years not gotten worse > > Practices now affecting travellers on all these > services include: > > - Without notice, terminating the service before > the end of the line, simply decanting passengers > at the nearest stop rather than taking them where > the service is meant to take them. How very > convenient for bus companies, what a gross > imposition on bus users. there are many factors for such an action, it could be heavy traffic along its route has made it run incredibly late meaning the only way to get the service back on track is to terminate early and then re-join its return journey earlier to make up time. Drivers legal driving time may be compromised and so early termination is unavoidable. Traffic issues (diversions, road closures etc) also have an impact. The bus company really isn't out to do what it likes just to upset you. > - School teachers standing in the doorway at home > time, letting kids idle up the street to the bus > while on-board passengers sit and wait. And wait. > By what legal AUTHORITY exactly ?? What place does this argument have in this post? Surely that's a school issue not the bus services. School try to help ease the stress of school children travelling on buses - they can be a right unruly lot at times. Perhaps you would prefer that type of experience? > > - Buses remaining at stops for minutes on end > while the company "regulates the service". Another > triumphant technique of 21st century scheduling ! You'd be complaining if you had missed the 9:43 bus because it was early now wouldnt you?! > > - Provision of the Countdown electronic > noticeboard at stops is, again, utterly without > logic, totally random. Why is there not a board at > the major Rye Lane stop at the bottom of Peckham > Rye, for god's sake ? Did all the wee TfL > Einsteins, like, get really distracted by a > shiny-shiny ball bouncing by and just, like, > forget this project ? Perhaps you should offer your experience of such systems? I think the main issue here is money - becareful what you wish for... it could be expensive > > So . . Who is looking after our interests ? Who is > defending Londoners ? Where are all those bright > young poppets, Labour and Lib Dem, ceaselessly > beetling about with their leaflets, their endless > prate about strengthening 'the community' ?? Where > (indeed who? - can any reader name one) are our SE > London representatives on the London Assembly ? > Where are the supposedly deeply local journos and > editors, so obsessed with crime and trivia, so > contemptuous of the real problems of their readers > ? What's you point? > > I really cant be bothered with the rest. Nice to have a rant I guess.

giggirl Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > Back on topic. I like kind people who make me > laugh and are truthful and generous. Preferably > male and really hot (and tall). I like ur finking chick!

I don't want to get old! ::o

Narnia Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > > I'm interested to know how you know that Matthew. > I'm not saying you're not right, just curious. Hahaha are you lacking commonsense these days now too? If you were a lurker (yes I know it's hard to imagine) and you just happened to see a thread completeley slating a company you thought was actually ok might you not be tempting to cross over in assigning yourself a name and join in the posting on here? And, of course there's the lurker who may have used someone who was recommend on here and wishes to give their feed back blah blah blah blah blah. Not everyone (now this surely is REALLY hard to believe) are trolls :) Karter - are those voices bothering you again? oh dear!

Lights

Grumpy old women! Just wot IS the deal wiv 'em? ;-)

Or just shops in general

That's no way to talk about the staff ;-)

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French

Thought about contacting the council?

I've hoped a 'spoons would be coming closer to the area for a loooong time :)

:-|

Any hints if the name will change?

And them get run down by a cyclist. if you're in the way what else would/could/should you expect :)

oh no rubs if they/you kiss and tell they/you are not playing by the rules! reputation could quite easily along the tart route

a full basket? maybe? ;-) ooooh Rubs all this attention you're receiving now... mayb I shall retreat now *sighs* :p

I found the whole experience quite enjoyable... no need to rush anywhere coz there was no point... took me two hours to get to work which was great as I'm getting to the exciting bits in my book. Getting home wasn't too bad either - there was the usual kind of idiot blocking up the road causing more congestion but nothing out of the norm. :) I dont see what all the fuss was about.