Earl Aelfheah

Let's see where all that public money goes and who benefits eh? Have a look at northern line extension and nine elms if you want a glimpse of the future of OKR 'development opportunity site'

It's a difficult one. Areas change. Peckham's changed many times and previous businesses made way for what's there now. I accept that these hair salons have an important role, beyond just providing hair styling. But many businesses get pushed out when areas are redeveloped and they're not often provided with alternative, custom built premises as is happening in this case. To say it's segregation is a bit much. What's being proposed mirrors what currently exists - namely a hub / cluster of similar establishments which brings it's own benefits. The question of whether they will suffer from the reduced footfall is significant (if indeed they do rely primarily on passing trade rather than a loyal customer base), but it sounds as though that is something which is being thought of. What is significant is that many of those operating in the current units are only hiring a chair and pay a significant amount of their earnings to do so. It sounds like under the new arrangement, they'll have far more control than they do currently. Fundamentally though, it sounds to me, as though genuine thought has been given to how the impact of the changes might be mitigated, at least to some degree.

I agree Titch, but actually reading about the plans for Peckham Palms and also the extremely precarious position of most of the salon workers currently - weighing this also against the opportunity to improve the station entrance etc - It's clear there has been genuine thought given to how one might balance these things. The article Siduhe linked to above is quite interesting.

I think there is a lot in what you say Seabag. I certainly don't think there is some sort of conspiracy going on. the more I think about it.. and reading that FT article linked to above, it actually sounds like these salons are being offered a pretty good deal. There are plenty of other businesses who are just thrown out of their premises without the kind of mitigation being offered in this case.

You could be right penguin. I blame poober.

I have never been in the drovers, but if your characterisation is correct Rendel, then I'm surprised it hasn't been shut down.

First mysterious bottles of orange liquid, now a phantom shitter. ED has toilet troubles.

Perhaps the cheese block could expand out to become more of a deli?

May I suggest that people with 'staring eyes', who wear a balaclava whilst walking a few steps behind the only other person on a dimly lit street, with loud cuban healed shoes and carrying a cigarette lighter shaped like a gun in their hand, just consider how they might be making others uncomfortable.

.. hmmm, no mention in that Times piece of Marmite. They clearly don't know what they're talking about.

BTW - I don't get the Peckhamplex v's Picturehouse narrative here. It's not a zero sum game. You can like and visit both.

For me as a consumer to take my business elsewhere, you have to make a relative judgement. People say 'go to Peckhamplex and boycott Picturehouse'. But if Picturehouse pay their staff a higher wage than Peckhamplex (which I'm pretty sure they do, in fact Picturehouse appear to pay more than most cinemas) - then clearly the boycott is unhelpful / misdirected. It doesn't mean that you don't support workers rights, or even the Picturehouse employees campaign for higher wages.

Interesting. I'm not sure of my view on this. As long as they're being given space in the new place at the same sort of rents, then I don't think any individual shop should be allowed to stand in the way of a redevelopment which benefits the wider community. That said, what are the chances they actually end up setting up business elsewhere / get moved out - pretty high I'd guess.

You serve it in the hat and sell it to a Hipster.

I add half a teaspoon of marmite, but keep it under your hat.

Southwark should start spray painting yellow stencils of a man with his trousers round his ankles on the pavements.

red devil Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > O.M.G... > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39186644 Just watched this. 😳

If your going to organise a boycott, it should target the worst offenders. That's not pocturehouse.

Parliament made a commitment, they should honour it.

It's absolutely outrageous that schools which are in receipt of state funding should be allowed to bar children from entry on the basis of their parents superstitions.

The Peckham Plex and the Picturehouse are completely different offerings. If you can't understand why anyone would chose one over the other (either one), then you lack imagination.

uncleglen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > No-one has systematically criticised Germany for > enabling the brightest students to achieve their > best, or for enabling others to receive vocational > education which is exactly what we had in the UK > before the lefty idiot Crosland had his way. > http://www.howtogermany.com/pages/germanschools.ht > ml > > As someone from a working class background who > went to grammar school in a very deprived area, > and as someone who has spent the last 20 years > teaching in inadequate 'educational' > establishments in Inner London I wholly support > the creation of many more grammar schools because > at the moment only people who can afford to move > to Chislehurst and have private tutors can get > into one. > Someone should ask the arch-hypocrites Harriet > Harman and Jack Dromey what THEY think of grammar > schools, and also ask Diane Abbott what kind of > socialist she thinks she is And there is the problem - policy based on anecdote instead of evidence. Grammars will mean far fewer opportunities for kids from less affluent backgrounds. But it was good for you and it was good for May so it must be a good idea right?

Jules-and-Boo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > why go to the Picturehouse when we've got Peckham > Plex! Really?

So I see that May is pushing ahead with creating selective Grammar schools, despite all the evidence showing that they lead to poorer outcomes for the vast majority of children. Depressing

Cheers Jah, will give that a go.