Earl Aelfheah

I e found it particularly galling to see how quickly politicians have fallen in behind Trump (especially those on the right). Often politicians that generally I respect, or would have expected to speak out more. This article puts it well https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/feb/05/donald-trump-lies-belief-totalitarianism?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

It is easy, with so much craziness, to almost become immune to it. Just a reminder of the last week of Trump TrumpWatch: The Week's 5 Flashpoints From President Trump http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/trump-watch_uk_58945e8de4b0505b1f588d30 this guy is dangerous.

Jenny1 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I hope this link will work > > https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/ > 03/how-to-build-an-autocracy/513872/ > > to a long and interesting piece in The Atlantic > Monthly Good read

motorbird83 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The 363 goes directly to Crystal Palace and you > can pick it up from Underhill Rd near Lordship > Lane in addition to Peckham Rye (which is also > SE22). The 37 (which you can get from Lordship > Lane) goes directly to Brixton. The P4 also goes > to Brixton... I really don't understand your > comment at all at least as concerns buses. > > > rahrahrah Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Considering the regular buses which ply > Lordship > > Lane, it's relatively difficult to travel to > some > > major nearby 'towns'. Brixton and Crystal > Palace > > being the two obvious ones. Fair enough, I suppose it depends where in ED you live. For me both those routes are pretty slow, as they involve a walk and then often a long wait.

... OK, having googled it, the story has a kernel of truth: http://www.london-se1.co.uk/news/view/5543

worldwiser Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The environmental team finally replied this > morning with the priceless response that 'Goose > Green roundabout is not in Southwark' and that I > should address my enquiry to the correct borough. > God help us all. Ha! Apparently a proposed branch of Nando's on Stamford Street, applied to Southwark for planning permission a few years back. Southwark's planning commitee granted permission with neither party realising that the site was actually located in Lambeth. When the error was discovered Nando's had to reapply, this time in the correct borough.* *there's a good chance this is apocryphal

Considering the regular buses which ply Lordship Lane, it's relatively difficult to travel to some major nearby 'towns'. Brixton and Crystal Palace being the two obvious ones.

... she deserves credit for her vote imo.

That's true James, but it would have been easier to tow the party line. also, I'm sure she'll see get a lot of grief from the more distasteful elements on the leave side. Farage is already saying that MPs voting against the bill are enemies of democracy.

.. in case anyone was unclear about whether he was or not.

There's hardly a dearth of coffee shops in Pecknarm

I would ask 'what would make them happy exactly', but I think that could take us to some dark places.

Trump is such a bellend

"MPs who don't support the outcome of a referendum are enemies of democracy" claim MPs who spent 40 years campaigning to leave the EU following the referendum in '75.

don't think there was, no.

Has anyone noticed how the Brexiters are still really angry despite the referendum going their way?

Jules-and-Boo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > oh Cat - such a Forum faux-pas! > > Criticising those who criticise the democracy they > claim to defend. Yeah, democracy means keeping quite, not expressing your opinions and never, ever campaigning for change (oh hold on, that's autocracy)

red devil Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > To be filed under 'NHS ?350m week' pledge... We're definitely still getting that thought right? I mean, it was on a bus. A bus wouldn't lie.

What!? No money? What about the 'Brexit Bonus'? What happened?

Ken Clarke for leader of the Labour party!

JohnL Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Maybe we could rename the UK, Boaty McBoatface. > We are an island. > > I'm sure that would be the will of the people. Anyone who thinks this is a bad idea are enemies of democracy.

I'm just looking forward to this huge 'Brexit bonus' we were promised by Farage and co. Can't wait to see all that extra money pouring into the economy - anyone know the date when it's due to arrive?

what I don't get, is that there must at some point be a prototype or first run. At this point, someone must think 'oh, it doesn't do what it's designed for... hmmm... let's go into production anyway'. That's the weird bit. When something is only designed to do one thing (like a pencil sharpener), which it cannot do - how does it still get into production?

Ed was build, as you say, for office clerks / city workers. Back in victorian time, It would have been considered a middle class area. Not as posh as Peckham, but 'respectable'.

The sight of all those MPs who believe Brexit to be damaging to those they are supposed to represent, voting for it anyway is appalling. I know exactly what you mean about conscience Beej.