Earl Aelfheah

So reading this https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/jan/10/buzzfeed-publishes-donald-trump-russia-documents-ethics-questions I have to conclude that this latest story (of secret contacts with the Kremlin) lacks credibility. It's pretty poor of buzzfeed to have published it without any real evidence of the reports veracity. I don't like Trump and his dismissal of evidence of Russian hacking, does open him up to these kind of stories.... but, even he must be afforded the same right not to be smeared in the press that anyone else has.

So I see there is now a suggestion that Trump may have had 'secret contacts' with Russia in the run up to the election. It's hard to know what to make of it frankly https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/10/fbi-chief-given-dossier-by-john-mccain-alleging-secret-trump-russia-contacts. My instinct would be that it's all far too far fetched, but then Trump's behaviour is so erratic, who knows what's going on.

Sounds pretty scary Buddug hope you're not too shaken.

???? Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > rahrahrah Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > We have to accept that things haven't been as > bad > > as was predicted. > > Sums up a lot of remainers opinion (but not mine) > - "we have to accept FFS"? You, like many, clearly > would rather things had gone badly.... > > It's done, we are out and we have to make the best > of it and we are in betters shape than most on the > left are willing to admit - with a lot more > leverage than you realise. This Forum is like the > fooking Guardian - negative, sanctimonious, full > of woe, country hating - typical middleclass left > wingery nothing positive to contribute. Why I gave > up with left to be honest What do you mean "I would rather things had gone badly"? You do talk a lot of sh*t quids. Also, you're insistence on making everything an issue of 'left / right' is silly. The EU debate cut across both parties.

It's really hard to get a GP appointment and there are very few drop in centres (as Jeremy says, they've stopped doing drop-ins at the Lister Centre). People will invariably resort to visiting A&E in the absence of reasonable alternatives.

I think you missed Abe's meaning Malumbu. He's mocking the person in the queue not agreeing with them.

People leaving excrement all over the pavements have no sympathy from me. It's deeply antisocial.

uncleglen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ... the poor and poorly educated (thanks to destruction of the life-line > of the poor- the grammar schools- destroyed by an evil public school Labour asshole who did it > purely to keep the poor on their place Margaret Thatcher, as education secretary, approved the closure of more grammar schools in the 1970s than any other politician. Not that I think that's a bad thing, they're terrible for social mobility, but just thought I'd make the point.

I'll have whatever he's drinking.

In the debate about whether or not Russia tried to undermine the Clinton campaign for the presidency everyone seems to have forgotten that Trump actively appealed to Russian hackers to do just this: I don't understand why this appears to be getting left out of the current analysis. It's uncomfortable sure, but doesn't it sail very close to collusion?

Chief economist of Bank of England admits errors in Brexit forecasting: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/jan/05/chief-economist-of-bank-of-england-admits-errors

Support the campaign to have TfL take over the franchise https://www.london.gov.uk/what-we-do/transport/mayors-plans-rail-devolution/pledge

It's just suggesting that whether article 50 has been triggered or not shouldn't make a difference in terms of the uncertainty created by a leave vote.

Jenny1 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > rahrahrah Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > @Red Devil - From the article I linked to: > > > > "It is not good enough to say most forecasts > were > > based on an assumption of an immediate UK > > notification of Article 50... Brexit > uncertainty > > exists regardless of when the UK informs the EU > of > > its intention to leave " > > Logically that should be the case. But have you > noticed how financial markets, and the economy as > a whole, often don't seem to react to the prospect > of events on the horizon, but only respond when > things actually happen? I'm not sure why this > happens - but I have noticed it before. With article 50 to be triggered in March, I guess we will soon see whether or not it has an impact.

I agree Lordship - on the face of it at least, the spending and borrowing binge which has followed the Leave vote seem irrational. It's perhaps not that surprising therefore, that economists failed to predict it.

We have to accept that things haven't been as bad as was predicted. Of course, that's not to say that leaving the EU will not have negative long term consequences, but I think Remainers (of which I am one) have to accept that the dire predictions made about the immediate impacts of a leave vote haven't materialised.

@Red Devil - From the article I linked to: "It is not good enough to say most forecasts were based on an assumption of an immediate UK notification of Article 50... Brexit uncertainty exists regardless of when the UK informs the EU of its intention to leave "

...unless Dave the Cabby is also a proficient amateur Economist. Which he might be of course.

To summarise (apologies, forgot about the paywall): Economists got it wrong about the immediate impact of a vote to leave the EU. The error stemmed from a failure to predict the strength of household consumption following the vote. The assumptions made about household spending were reasonable, but never the less mistaken. Rather than rising, household savings fell throughout 2016. The savings ratio dropped to an extremely low level in the third quarter, as consumers went on a borrowing and spending binge not seen since before the financial crisis. The reasons why this might be should become clearer later in the year. It's worth remembering that any forecast, necessarily involves a degree of guesswork. You have to make assumptions when you're predicting what might happen in the future and sometimes you'll get it wrong. None of this is a reason to think we should stop taking experts seriously, or that an expert forecast has no more to recommend it than Dave the cabby's.

This sums it up pretty well: https://www.ft.com/content/15837254-d272-11e6-b06b-680c49b4b4c0

KidKruger Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Rahrah "It's weird that you stripped my comment of > context and then jumped to some imagined scenario > of me posing outside the butchers (as though > avoiding walking around a supermarket with young > kids is some sort of self aggrandising > pretension." > > You've taken offence at something NOT intended for > you. > You've a right to do that of course, but in this > instance it's definitely misplaced. > If anything, only the first couple of words were a > reply to you and after that I was on my own rant > about those on here always complaining about the > cheese/butchers/etc. I can digress sometimes ! Sorry KK - I misunderstood. Tired today and not processing things particularly effectively.

We've not had any issues, so I'm not sure it's a general issue to SE22.

Some of my fondest memories of food shopping was the occasional trip to the fishmongers to buy a live crab. I would then sit with my dad as he'd prepare it and if I was lucky he'd let me keep the claws.

..also, shopping in the local butchers is a weird form of posing, if that's what you think it is KK.

KidKruger Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > to be fair rahrah I don't actually go to > supermarkets anymore, especially when buying > cheese. Why breeze arund in 2mins when you can > prevaricate and pose or HOURS outside a trendy > cheese shop, fish shop, butcher, flower shop, > bakery ? I buy from supermarkets, I just do everything online and get stuff delivered. I never managed to 'breeze round' Sainsbury's in 2 minutes, it was always a long and tedious activity which is why I stopped going a few years back. My point was just that I haven't been in Dog kennel Sainsbury's for a long time so don't know whether they still sell packing boxes, but I always found them helpful. It's weird that you stripped my comment of context and then jumped to some imagined scenario of me posing outside the butchers (as though avoiding walking around a supermarket with young kids is some sort of self aggrandising pretension.