Earl Aelfheah

I personally blame a combination of the press and the politicians who colluded with it. The Express, Mail, Sun etc. have been publishing ridiculous, often completely untrue stories about the EU for years and have also been ratcheting up the rhetoric around immigration and asylum for some time now. Politicians have seen fit to either leave it unchallenged, or to play to the fears being stoked for political advantage. You can't reverse decades of propaganda during the course of a short referendum campaign. The public disgust at the phone hacking of murder victims and their families, bribing of police and other public officials and general amoral behaviour of the tabloids was a chance for change. The Leveson Inquiry was a chance for change. Cameron, who never seems to look further ahead than next week, decided not to grasp the once in a generation opportunity given to him to challenge Murdoch and Dacre and their destructive grip on public discourse.

BrandNewGuy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Indeed. Just shows what noisy people can get. > Ridiculous. Tt may not have been clear, but this was my point (not that Melbourne Grove was a hotspot, quite the opposite). My hope is that in future, there will be a more strategic approach to prioritising road changes, which will target hotspots, rather than simply responding to 'he who shouts loudest'.

Whether he is racist or not however, I do think he is odious. That 'facepalm' speech he made the other day in the European parliament was pathetic in the true sense of the word. It was his moment, the culmination of years of campaigning and whether you agree with him or not (I don't), it should have been a proud, victorious moment for him. Instead of being magnanimous, of making the most of it, he insulted everyone and came across as mean, petty and deeply insecure.

"Taking back control" "We just want to be a normal country"

Whilst no one can know what is in another person's heart - I do think Farage is probably quite racist. Whilst I'm sure he'd condemn the loud punchy, out there type of racists (too crass) - That poster, the talking about immigrants bringing crime and disease, complaints about people on the tube talking in foreign languages - you don't have to read too hard between the lines. Sure, it's racism of the polite, banal, guarded type, that's not at all uncommon (especially amongst people of his generation and older). In someways it's a far more insidious. This is the thing, when people say that it's a 'small minority of racists', I am not so sure that's correct. I think racism is actually incredibly pervasive, just subtle.

I think I see what you mean. EU companies may be put off importing goods from the UK due to uncertainty about future trade deals (despite the weaker pound making such goods cheaper at least in the short term)?

Lordship 516 Wrote: > When inflation rises, purchasing power is > diminished. > The resultant drop in consumer spending has a > negative effect on stock and bond prices that will > be further affected by a resistance to exports. > Unemployment will rise, for sure. @Lordship 516 - That all makes sense, expect the bit about resistance to exports, which I don't think I've quite grasped. Would some exports not be boosted at least, by the falling value of the pound?

Lordship 516 - a poll of 700 plus economists suggests you may be right about possible stagflation. http://www.ft.com/fastft/2016/06/29/uk-inflation-to-breach-2-in-2017-economists/

He also critised Labour at the last election for suggesting that he was trying to cut too hard too fast, saying it would bankrupt the country if we attempted to bring the deficit down slightly more slowly (less slowly than he himself has done).

I have an ipad with a cracked screen

...or, a tiny cake being stamped on by Rupert Murdoch.

Well quite. Let's also hope that there is a more strategic approach to identifying investment priorities going forward, to ensure that accident hotspots are being tackled.

I agree. Confidence is a huge part of what happens economically and it's undoubtedly suffered a huge blow as a result of Brexit.

Farage was spotted hobnobbing with Murdoch over the weekend.

I hope this means he'll stop being invited on to every political TV show and debate. It would be nice if he were to disappear for public life properly

Unbelievable approach to planning and prioiritsing resources.

I agree with Healey for what it's worth.

...will anyone notice the difference?

Voting to leave, really isn't voting for anything. It's voting against something. That is literally all the disparate bunch of miscreants leading the leave campaign had in common with each other - the fact that they didn't like the EU. Well fine, but that is like travelling in a plane that is uncomfortable and expensive and has a stop off you would prefer not to have to make and so saying "i don't like this", opening the door and jumping out. It's clear that they all have wildly different (although universally half formed) ideas about what would happen next. It's really not good enough. Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson is today berating the government for not having a plan for what would happen post-Brexit. Do none of the Leavers feel that perhaps they should have been thinking about next moves before encouraging us to all jump from that plane?

The markets rallied after it became clear that no one was going to hit the Article 50 button anytime soon. Once that does happen expect further market shock. Of course no one can predict the future with certainty, but if the UK doesn't fall into recession in the near future, I'll be (pleasantly) surprised. The falling pound, whilst potentially good for exporters, can only really have a negative impact generally, on an economy which relies far more on imports.

What's with the fireworks?

... People believe stuff written on buses.

kibris Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Its a shame that more people dont take pride in > there flag Why? Genuine question. I've never understood the desire to wave flags about.

A two-bed flat above an M&S, leasehold?! Who's going to pay ?750K for that?

Can someone send a bus out with, "demand a second referendum and everyone gets a unicorn that shits candy and cries lemonade" written on it? We'll soon have this thing sorted.