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But both are further out of town and you pay a premium for being close to London. ED, compared to other areas within 5 miles of the centre, is still relatively cheap. dwe Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Ok 2 other areas (off the top of my head) that are > more affordable - Penge and Sydenham..... > > ED has everything really in situ, a gentrified > high street, with decent bars and shops, but it > wasn't always the case. The current house prices > there are reflecting this. > > Penge however has little gentrification, but > excellent transport links to both the City and > Victoria, as well as into Shoreditch etc. It also > has a decent amount of housing that is not that > different to the housing in ED.

ratty - I don't agree. ED is a relatively relaxed familly area. It's not white and middle class - despite the impression this forum may sometimes give, it is still an incredibly diverse area. It is also true that it can be less threatening than some other neighbourhoods of SE London ...I have lived in Camberwell / Peckham for many years - areas which I like a lot - but experienced a lot more daily aggravation / antisocial / criminal behaviour.

There are very few areas in zone 2 which are cheaper for houses, except perhaps Lewisham.

House prices in Camberwell and Peckham are similar. Anywhere further West (Brixton, Clapham etc.) house prices are higher. Most places outside the SE postcode are more expensive. East London has gone crazy. You'll find few places cheaper than ED in zone 2 for houses except East of ED (staying in SE).

If you have 650K to spend on a 3 bed house in 'inner london', where else would you buy?

I agree wit micmac, it would actually be great by the station (where the Morissons is going). Would be nice to pick up a quick meal on the way home occassionally.

There is no automatic right to park a car outside your house. Occasionally, I have to park a couple of streets away (which is a bit inconvenient), but I have no more right to any particular space than anyone else. Building more parking spaces, just encourages more people to drive to the shops.

Crime hasn't gone up, but I do miss the horses none the less.

West Dulwich! Get out!

... that said, I do quite like her personality.

Who says politics has just become about personalities?

...or how about an indefinite restriction on reselling new council housing... or barring that, how about we just stop selling the few existing council houses at well below half the market value. Jeremy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Well yeah obviously... so how about city hall > building homes directly? Perhaps with a five year > restriction on resale and renting.

Interesting post ????s - must admit, i had never really thought about national pay bargaining in that way.

It's not all about planning laws - there must be an element of builders pursing a low volume, high margin strategy. ???? Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The market would sort it out - planning laws are > what are stopping family homes been built in areas > where they are needed as much as anything else.

I would kind of like our local MP to live in the area.

Does she live locally?

I'm not sure anyone is claiming to be expert, but we are exchanging opinions on a public forum.

70% of new build homes snapped up by investors: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/mortgageshome/article-2394704/Foreign-investors-snap-70-new-build-homes-central-London.html Billionaires row scandal: http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/feb/02/tories-taxing-poor-ignoring-billionaires-row-scandal-labour

... or by a hike in interest rates... or another banking crisis brought on by 5% deposit mortgages and the like. Personally, I don't by the lack of supply argument. 70% of new builds in London are snapped up by investors and I'm sure a large number of them are overseas. So how many would you need to build for it to have an impact on the residential market? It's not like there are fewer properties than people - far from it, in prime London there are a lot of empty properties. Until government pursue policies which discourage international speculation in the 'property investment market', then prices will be all over the place and bear no relation to local wages or housing need.

rahrahrah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > This is interesting: > http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/feb/02/lo > ndon-property-market-bubble-cool-down-ey-item-club "....Arguably it would be more appropriate to treat it [London] as an investment market, rather than a residential market."

What's really irksome is that investor's get tax breaks. hpsaucey Wrote: > Spot on, but makes me so mad! We - eventually - > raked up enough to buy a shared ownership property > last year. It's our HOME and I wake up grateful > for it every single day. All we ever wanted was > somewhere to live. I know there are 'logical' > reasons for people buying as an investment, but > when people who want a property just to bloody > live in are priced out by those looking for > immediate investment/profit it sucks quite > frankly. > > H

This is interesting: http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/feb/02/london-property-market-bubble-cool-down-ey-item-club

If you look at asking prices vs actual sold prices, there does seem to be a big inconsistency. There is of course a lag in terms of published sold prices and current asking prices which may account for some of this (assuming prices have actually soared over a period of just a couple of months), but I suspect that asking prices are pretty optimistic in some instances.

you can get motion sensitive, alarmed padlocks (and they're not as expensive as you may think. I used to use one to secure the bike cover at the bottom with. Any attempt to move the cover would set it off.

Agree re. all the psuedo military vehicles. My road looks like helmand province. We used to laugh at the Americans all driving ludicrous oversized tanks. tallulah71 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > What SJ and Ron70 said. > > Lots of young families moving here, breeding, and > needing education and that. I can't think of a > better use of space. > > What we really don't need are those idiots who > drive 4x4 cars so no-one can ever pass them. > Please buy smaller cars and get over yourselves - > We know you're rich, but you really do block most > of East Dulwich. And the world. ;) > > And east dulwich is fairly flat. You're not having > an "adventure" in your 4x4. You are just causing > traffic.