malumbu

I get my scale and polish under tier 1 charges. If your private dentists misinforms you you can (and should) complain. They have codes of practice, complaints procedures and ultimately this can be considered by the General Dental Council

DR, you will find the Express has much better headlines. It's pretty barmy but seems to vary from well done Boris for not giving in, to the evil empire that wants to defeat us plucky Brits. Good old fashioned Churchillian. This is from a limited sample when I am queuing at the self service at Lidl in Sydenham. Not sure where the papers are stacked at the Peckham store.

The difficulty is Mr/Ms Rockets is that most of your posts are tinged with inferred or direct criticism of Southwark. Bringing the posh people into DV into the equation doesn't add to your argument either. And then laying into Southwark Cyclists and similar lobbies. When I moved to the area many years ago you'd use Dulwich as a reference point to explain to those outside of SE London where you lived as most people had heard of it. I remember thinking that whilst the houses and green space were lovely, it was a traffic jam for many hours of the day so why would you want to live there? As was and is much of London. Congestion is nothing new. Me? I've also given my views in this thread before. It's sometimes difficult keeping up with the posts, and easy to lose interest. Loose summary of where I come from 1. For many you need tough measures to wrench them out their cars. 2. Broadly in support of LTNs acknowledging, like the ULEZ and extension rather a clumsy measure and I'm not familiar enough with the affected roads to suggest alternatives. Believe it or not I am affected too, but then have been affected by many changes to the road network since moving to London. 3. Road pricing is the best way to reduce road traffic, pollution, congestion etc 4. No silver bullets on public transport - highly fragmented much of it being a product of unregulated expansion in the Victorian times, and needs huge amounts of money thrown at it, which just isn't there anymore. Noting that it is far more joined up than say 15 years ago, the transformation that the Oyster card/contactless brought in, joining much of SE London with the tube network through the Overground, the eventual benefits of crossrail etc. 5. Even I get grumpy about some of the changes, for example traffic management at the Elephant and Castle, and anything else that delays buses for example some of the infrastructure around Blackfriars and the Faringdon Road. I'm not particularly irate as you suggested I am interested in learning more. At times it does feel like the posts are being repetitive and I have no idea if you represent the masses, you may just be more vocal. I gave up becoming seriously grumpy about local authorities in the 00s - another local authority and over planning. We lost that one years ago and don't consider a Judicial Review unless you have serious funding. We went down that route.

So what are the answers then? There is plenty telling us that the council has got it wrong. I few of us are more supportive. But I am still trying to find constructive alternatives

Didn't see any mention of Southwark in the BBC article. I thought that the council was the route of all evil Rockets. You do seem to jump on anything and everything to push your argument. This does seem to be a pointless thread as I haven't seen anything constructive apart from TJ - we all need to get on together. If we were better at sharing street space then perhaps we wouldn't need some of the draconian action being debated ad infinitum on other threads. That said I usually argue the opposite the most road users are courteous and respectful of others. There's a certain competence that you need in using a road vehicle be it a car/motorbike or pushbike. The easier you make it to use, ie ebike, then some of that goes out of the window. I expect bikeability lessons to be extended one way or another to e scooters in the not too distant future.

I walked down the hill to the Plough and was disappointed not to see anyone misbehaving. On the way back I got a paper and someone in the shop was not wearing a mask. Absolutely shocking. It's not a laughing matter but please do get a life everyone.... i don't have the answers but my question is how do you get the minority, albeit sizeable, to behave.

A common view amongs many involved in the profession not my own dentist. My wonderful dentist gives me a scale and polish, I tend not to say "do you really need to do this, there is some evidence that it isn't particularly useful', and it is part of my check up. A previous dentist used to scowl and tell me that I'd been drinking too much tea and red wine. My dentist is a similar age and went through the save level of poor dental hygiene (eg Ribena, that rotted many kids teeth in the 60s to 80s), one of the water companies that did't put flouride in the water, and drill and fill unnecessary intervention by state dentists. The latter is no longer a practice. All four of us kids over 15 years when to the same butcher who did dentistry from a caravan in the playground twice a year. Fortunately kids have better advice, better oral hygiene and better preventive dentistry now. Nice comparison of similar metropolitan areas with and without flouride - Birmingham vs Bolton, 50% more cavities in the latter. https://bfsweb.org/download/1399/benefits-of-fluoridation/14pKaIyAZbTPp6K6f3USVroFqBaVsTW40/Fifty%20years%20of%20water%20fluoridation%20in%20Birmingham%202014

But Kent is in tier 3. Perhaps all those people who live beyond Penge, Eltham and the like who proudly pronounce that they live in Bromley, Kent, and Bexleyheath, Kent, would like the boundary redrawn. I'd be happy with that. Apologies for using an informative thread to bash some in the outer boroughs. Couldn't resist it. Rates in some of the outer boroughs more than two times Lewisham and Southwark who are having a close battle for the lowest rates in London.

And Kent of course

I'm really surprised at this - I thought that this only happened in areas with different demographic - lower socioeconomic, more diverse ethnic mix and the like. I'd read this on this forum: /forum/read.php?20,2166352,2166956#msg-2166956

What services do dental hygienists provide beyond what you can pay for on the state? It's many years since my state dentist referred me to one. I get a scale and polish as part of my routine check. I did some work on dentistry years ago, meeting dentists and trade/professional groups, and then it was argued by some that even a scale and polish didn't actually benefit the oral health of the patient. I managed to get into the habit of flossing a few years ago which has helped both the gums receding and cavities. Other simple tips, do not let sweet drinks and juice linger in the mouth, and when you clean your teeth don't wash your mouth out afterwards. Let the flouride toothpaste do its job. All of that was from dental professionals not word of mouth (ho ho).

Wow Bob, you've filled a whole page with a post. Anyway rightly or wrongly the police do very little enforcement of the Road Traffic Act and the like. It was decided many years ago that this was not a principle role. You could argue why are they not stopping other road users, dangerous drivers, cyclists without lights and pedestrians crossing without looking when crossing the road. The point on violent crime addresses why scooters are not a priority. Not a debating point just a reality check. e scooters are with us, heaven knows how you manage them with limited street space.

Just been watching the Last Leg. Shocked that David Mitchell has dared criticise the prominence of the union flags in Number 10 press briefings. He dared to compare this to America, and even stated that flags should be flown in the air. Just ignore my post, it is purely self-indulgent, self congratulatory toss. malumbu Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ED Bird Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > malumbu Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > Rather under the belt, and very political but > am > > I > > > the only one who thinks that having the union > > > flags behind the PM in the televised > > conferences > > > reminds me of another time? > > > > > > This is not as facetious as it may sound. > > Looking > > > back union flags have appeared in the past > but > > > they seem to have more prominence now. > > > > > > > > offensive & pathetic. > > > > I bet you wouldn't be complaining if it was an > EU > > flag. > > I didn't think that it would be worth having an > adult conversation with you about patriotism, > nationalism and the like. But I have found you a > friend. For those interested it refers to Liz > Truss and the televised cabinet meeting. > > Nah nah nah nah nah. > > > Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

holloway Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > They are absurd, I cannot understand how anyone > including grown adults, think they look good going > around on one. Whoever invented them should be > birched. In deed, birching is not a word we hear enough nowadays. Never did me any harm.

Not going to go into the fine detail but bringing up the big picture, again (and again and again...). Ban is a dirty word and no government for the time being is going to ban personal car ownership. However there has to be some redress of the balance as we've had pro-car policies for most of the last 65 years (the early Blair government was changing things until they caved into the unholy alliance of hauliers and farmers). Affordable cars from the late 50s onward changed the whole landscape. Cars were no longer a luxury for the rich. Personal mobility was revolutionised. You were no longer limited to where you took the family for a holiday - we'd all be going down to Margate and the South Coast otherwise (you can make the same argument with the advent of package foreign holidays and then budget airlines - but I'll park the challenge of aviation and climate change). But reducing car ownership could/should be a good thing, not because we hate car owners, and want everyone to be lycra clad ecowarriors, rather that there are smarter ways of getting around both in terms of personal mobility, costs and the impact on the environment. With connected and autonomous vehicles our world is going to change like it or not. On a smaller scale Whilst most of us feel that e scooters are a pain they will be no doubt part of that solution. Ideally we will grasp these new intermodal technologies, but until they are more of a reality, without some pain many will not change their habits and their attachment to the tin box. Not sure what the tipping point is when many will realise that with smarter alternatives and/or the cost and inconvenience of driving (delete either as appropriate), then there is no point any more in owning your own car. I've been to talks, not by sandal wearing crusties but scientists, engineers and transport experts where they project images of the future. Perhaps California will show us all the way. Alleluia brothers and sisters. I expect some reality checks now but what is wrong with wanting to change the world for the benefit of all (oh apart from Jeremy C, but I expect much of what he says is for effect).

Isn't this I an I am Spartacus moment? Where is he/she in any case?

Wow. Didn't think I'd unleashed that one. As someone who is DBS cleared for vulnerable adults and children the twitter vid, which has now been taken down, didn't alarm me. As someone who had school age children not so long ago there were no alarm bells ringing. When I saw that Chris Boardman had shared it, I didn't think 'what that dirty old perv'. I'm not aware of anything bad about St Chris. I was doing some work with the forces and some invited secondary school kids a few years ago and we invited the South London Press. I checked with the schools that they had parental agreement for photos. The one school, a good one near the Elephant and Castle just said they didn't need it. I expect that there was an agreement when the kids started school, but they were obviously not paranoid that the event was a cover for some satanic acts. Alternatively they just took a pragmatic decision.

A nice video of people walking and cycling in Dulwich. I'm sure others can post images of congestion but I prefer this one. https://twitter.com/CleanAirDulwich/status/1331299959975632896

In deed good to be positive. Noting the great variation ward by ward and it only takes a small localised outbreak to rain on your parade (or wee on your bonfire). Lewisham isn't far behind Southwark. For those thinking of moving to the outer boroughs they are not faring so well, you may wish to consider Thanet or Swale in Kent......

quick off the mark DR

Lets face it most of the population have become a bit lapse, not helped by DC, Johnson's mixed messages, a "I don't know anyone who has it' and 'it's OK if you are outdoors'. Back in July I was surprised how relaxed many of the London pubs were. But please don't specify individual groups, in this case North African and sub-Saharan Africa as it shows conscious or unconscious bias. There are many not from these groups misbehaving.

Yep but all that horse manure from milk deliveries. Although there were the benefits to your roses and some of the birds that fed on the insects. (when I was in Glasgow in the 80s there were still horse drawn milk carts, and the traditional rag and bone man could still be seen in London up until the 90s and horse drawn drays until the Youngs brewery was closed in the 00s

An article in Transport Times about road pricing. It's entitled taking the politics out of road pricing. Well worth a read. https://www.transporttimes.co.uk/news.php/Taking-the-politics-out-of-road-pricing-577/?utm_source=Transport+Times&utm_campaign=2944c9a532-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2018_10_30_11_03_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_c0cafa3f39-2944c9a532-250793593 Extracting a couple of interesting sections: The policy on road pricing has been one of the best fiscal changes that any government could have made over the last generation. It has always been the most effective way to tackle traffic congestion and reduce pollution but now there is a fiscal imperative as the government faces a ?40 billion hole in its public finances with the advent of electric vehicles and rapidly diminishing receipts from fuel duty. There are many who think that the shift to electric vehicles on its own will be sufficient. They are wrong. There is nothing green about a traffic jam and if government wants to put tackling climate change at the top of their priority list they should bear in mind that the freeze in fuel duty since 2011 has caused an additional 5 million tonnes of carbon emissions, by encouraging more trips by car and fewer trips by public transport.

Oh it was a facetious comment on the increased use of the woods during lockdown - you know the "where were you in pre-lockdown days'. Nothing serious. Hopefully many will keep visiting parks and woods in the future. Far more bothered by people who drive to the area at 23.30 in NYE double parking and causing grid lock to stand on the various hills, then drive back to wherever at 00.30 on New Year's Day. It was nice when this area was less well known, well in some respects.

https://www.linkagesouthwark.org/