malumbu

Could ManU field a team of pigs and still win the Prem? Will Liverpool actually ever win anything ever again? Who is the dullest northern team, Blackburn, Man C or Bolton?

I don't think Spurs will make the Champions league. Maybe Chelsea can catch Man U. Will Arsenal sign anyone. Can the Daggers stay up? How many points are QPR likely to get docked?

I think you deserve your own thread, and then we wont have to bother looking at it. Dundee United are a good team. Discuss.

I am surprised that no one picked up on my interesting history of football chants and 60s pop songs, my comment on psalms and football chants, and my links to modern day chants. Yet there is discussion on the most boring league in the world (SPL). Oh you win it this year, and we will win it next. What fun. Nor any discussion on who will get relegated from the Prem. Again far more interesting than the SPL. You could almost forgive our good friends North of the border for supporting Liverpool or ManU. Anyway, away from this nonsense. A pretty good day. Palace staying up, Walsall and Hereford probably staying up and a great result in the original top division derby (even if MoTD doesn't recognise this, and hid it away as the last match). Sadly the Lions wont probably be getting into the play offs, and the Robbins were neither here nor there. AFC in the play offs, Bromley safely mid table and Dulwich won 2-0 at Walton and Hersham69 to reach a respectable 5th, so also pretty decent outside the league. DU a good side. Hmmmm let me think about that. No I'll just go to bed.

I was in the tube following Pompey's dodgy victory in the semi-final against West Brom where Baros controlled the ball with his hand before setting up the only goal. So I said to this to a Pompey fan and he replied "who cares, we won". Which is always my answer to "we should have won". And that was also to some Baggies' fans in the Haringay Irish Club afterwards on Sat(note; two places where there are no pubs to drink afterwards in London, Spurs and Millwall. For different reasons I hasten to add). When I was in the church choir, we sang "I was glad" (Psalm 6, opening tune to Wills and Kate's big bash today"). But outside we would substitute the best result of the day "I was glad, glad when they said unto me, Birmingham City 0 Stoke City 3". Another good psalm is the 23rd, the Lord's my Shepherd. www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9xQnBEVVaQ&feature=related But for some balance after saying modern football songs are rubbish here is my fave: www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBbfJcRQG6g&feature=related (couldn't find the into to this where they shout TJ TJ, and some guy is lifted onto the shoulders to start it off. And for some futher balance: www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Hckgwh7ryU&feature=related Although a bit too professionally produced for my liking. And more importantly who is going down from the Prem?

I think it was a good result for Spurs. West Brom snuffed most of their attacks out and countered very well and could have nicked it at the end. Also West Brom should have been two nil up before the equaliser (not shown on MoTD). The arrogance of North Londoners eh? But I thought that there would be some interest in who was going down from the Prem. So to move onto the chants from the Kop. In a time when Liverpool was the centre of the new pop music, as groups were getting hold of American RnB due to the trade across the Atlantic, it was quite difficult to hear this on national radio due to the stuffy BBC, controls on what they could play (pop songs were often played by the BBC house orchestra as a condition of license) and no independent radio network. Pirates Radio Caroline and Radio Luxembourg, and that was about it. Discos were in their infancy. So where did you go and have a good sing song of the latest pop songs? The terraces! Even when I started to go in the early 70s it was great to hear pop songs and sing along to your own version "Oh Ally Ally, Ally, Ally Ally Ally Brown" (To son of my father my Chicory Tip, then top of the charts, and still used for new versions". My fave was the story of a foggy match at Anfield. There was a goal at the other end that the Kop did not see, so they chanted "Who scored the goal, who scored the goal, eh i adioh who scored the goal" The retort from the other end was "Hunt scored the goal Hunt scored the goal, eh i a...". And the reply was "thank you very much for the information, thank you very much thank you very very very much, thank you very much for the information" To the tune of thank you very much for the Aintree Iron" (see http://www.guardian.co.uk/notesandqueries/query/0,5753,-1840,00.html, not about Brian Epstein's sexuality after all!) the novelty song by the Scaffold. A golden age of terrace humour that we will sadly never see again. And I was too young to be there before anyone thinks that I am an ancient rather than old fart.

Thanks again for the advice. It has not turned up again on Gumtree. I did get some correspondence from the Cycle Task Force which I am happy to share below as it is general. I did also get a letter the day after from the cops saying that they were not investigating it further. Hello - I give you a lead. Hello - the place is covered with CCTV. I will pick my own fight with the Met. Interestingly their advice about checking it out myslef was "some people do get their bikes back". Obviously other people get into intimidating situations. Please do follow this thread to the end where I give the relevant ads on Gumtree. I will also PM those of you who kindly said that they will make enquiries. ---------------- again I'm sorry about the lack of communication between units. We are ain a very difficult position at the moment, where I have a team of 28 officers covering the entire Met Police area, which leaves us very busy with requests for assistance. In answer to your questions, I cannot give a definitive answer, but only offer my opinion based on my experiences gained from working on this unit so far: 1. Buyers of bikes range from cyclists looking for a bargain to people who buy bikes with a view to sell them on again. All of which seem to be oblivious to the fact that a bike being sold at a low price could suggest it is stolen. A point that we are working to publicise, as often we intercept sales after bikes have changed hands numerous times - the person in possession of the bike will often lose the bike and the money they paid for it when it is seized by police. 2. The length of time varies - sometimes bike are listed and sold within hours of being stolen. In other cases it can bve weeks or even months before appearing on internet sites for sale. 3. The seller could have been spooked, but to ask specific questions about a bike for sale is normal, then again each 'seller' is different so it is hard to say in this case. ----- Ads on Gumtree. Please do enquire about whether they have an extra large racing bike, and if you get any info pm me or share here if it is of wider interest. These are ads in the public domain so I see no problems in sharing them with the local community: ? ribble excellent condition Bikes, & Bicycles for Sale north london ... Reply to this ad or paul on 07578585479. i have a excellent condition ribble racer for sale as shown in picture only ?150 please call if interested thanks ... [for tall man] www.gumtree.com/p/for-sale/ribble-excellent-condition/76985604 ? b.twin sport 3 (good as new) Bikes, & Bicycles for Sale north ... Reply to this ad or john on 07578585479. i have a good as new b.twin sport 3 ... www.gumtree.com/p/for-sale/btwin-sport-3-good-as-new/76957502 ? b twin front and back carbon Bikes, & Bicycles for Sale north ... Reply to this ad or john on 07578585479. i have a brand new b twin as shown ... www.gumtree.com/p/for-sale/b-twin-front-and-back.../76845285 - Cached ? bianchi nirone 7 Bikes, & Bicycles for Sale north london London Reply to this ad or john on 07578585479. i have a good condition bianchi ... www.gumtree.com/p/for-sale/bianchi-nirone-7/76791118 - Cached ----------------------------------- THERE IS A PATERN HERE! THIS IS DODGY!! Many thanks Malumbu

Good result yesterday for Spurs, they just managed to hang on. Well done Harry. The water polo at the Bridge was particularly entertaining (sadly MoTD cut most of this out). Just need Palace to beat the dirty Leeds and it will be a good (long) weekend. So who is for the chop from the Prem - Grauniad thinks Blackpool, Blackburn and the Hammers. I think that the Arsenal are safe. And can anyone tell me who started the chant based on Depeche Mode 'Just can't get enough'?

I've not checked this thead, but surely no one in East Dulwich reads the 'Daily Hate'. With all the Grauniads there is no room for any other paper in the newsagents.

Remember, Rooney is not the Messiah. He is simply a very naughty boy.

Too late to offer advice but would like to share my views in any case. Firstly that the Stansted Express isn't (an express sevice), and is a rip off. Unlike Gatwick, and to a lesser extent Heathrow, where there is plenty of reasonable competition for rail services (and undergound), you just have the one rail service calling itself an express but averaging under 60mph and using the same tracks as the stopping service (so can get caught up by slow trains). And then on bank hols and Sundays when many people fly they put on less trains. So going back ten years, I have a less silly o'clock flight. Get to Liverpool Street at 4.50 with my very young daughter to catch the first train. Place is almost in the dark, no announcements or signs, and we and dejected passengers wait 40 minutes for the first train (5.00). So it leaves half an hour late, with twice the number on board, but trundles all the way to the airport. We miss our flights by five minutes, partially because the train is so croweded we can't get off quickly. I complain to be told that we should have left earlier (this was the first train). I point out that there was no information and that if we had known, hang the expense, would have jumped into a black cab. After going to some passenger committee thing got some dosh off Stansted Express, but after that never again. Golden rules, don't fly Ryanair but if you do select a Luton departure. If flying budget always try and go from Gatwick. I'll share my stories about Ryanair and Stansted airport another time. Oh, some practical advice, splash out on a cheap B&B that will run you to the airport in the morning.

Nightingales Pigs on Purpose. Here's one from earlier, can you name the other groups popsters? www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BwOlez2z0c&feature=related

DJ, I believe it is as much that people rely a lot on their hearing, and for whatever reason do not alway use both senses, rather than think I can't hear it therefore it wont hurt me.

Forgot to mention our friends Shadwell, who play just across the river at the Kennel. They make Millwall look like a bunch of butterfly collectors. Come on you Dogs!

Stats are great: 29 pedestrians were killed in Britain > in accidents involving cyclists between 1998 and > 2007. That's only 7600 pedestrians less than were killed by mototor vehicles during the same period The breakdown does not say whether the pedestrians were on the pavement or on the road. More pedestrians are killed by cars mounting the road than by cyclists. Therefore pedestrians are only killed by cyclists when they are on the road, trying to avoid cars from mounting the pavement. As a cyclist who only rarely uses pavements, and not at any great speed, I've never hit a pedestrain. I've come so close on the road so many times, as so many people on their phone, texting or on iPods don't bother looking. At least I would be cycling on the road if my bike hadn't been nicked. I suggest you look at my thread on the bike thief close to this one, I would find further comments helpful.

It is good to hear from a few of you, but no need to justify your roots. Odd that those who have no geographical association with their team have not posted. Sadly it seems to be chicken/egg for our local league teams. Charlton have tried to push into North Kent. Millwall have a great commmunity set-up but it is still not pleasant. Palace? 3 millon people on their door step but can't reach any sort of critical mass - compare this with 35 years ago when they could attract 40,000 and briefly in the early 90s it looked like they would pick up support again. But looking at our local kids' teams. The better teams tend to me more working class and Millwall supporting. The teams we have lower down the leagues all you see is Arsenal, Liverpool, Maure and Chelski shirts. So perhaps the parents (those who do not follow the egg) may have roots outside SE London. But why can't you encourage your kids to support a local team? Funnily enough think money comes into it, not just the one sided nonsense from Sky and to a lesser extent MoTD. Whilst ?50 is out of order for the big teams, but as they fill their stadium they can say it is the market price, the knock on of ?30 for the Championship, and half full stadiums is just daft. Went to a great match - Horley vs Guildford in the Cherry Red league a week ago. Real passion, sendings off, spectators telling the officials what they think (and getting into a friendly dialogue with the line). Mate, from Guildford, is club secretary. We walk to the staion from the ground, and meet some students from Surrey Uni, in beachware, going to the match. They decided to support their local team. Great. You know it makes sense. PS who amongst you can claim to watching their team with the local vicar? Or even be a footy supporting vicar?

Where I grew up 60% of the boys at school supported either one of the two local teams, and another 15% the teams from a few more miles away. Easy. The Skinner rule I believe. There were sadly a few who supported the big two at the time - Liverpool and Leeds, the glory hunters but then a sizeable chunk who supported Man U (then a pretty dire team), and they picked up more due to the United aggro of the mid 70s (only played out in singing in the playground). Do I really need to have to explain it. Sadly hardly anyone now seems to support our local teams - it would be good to have a guess on the percentage in East Dulwich who go down the Den (pretty easy to get to), Palace or Charlton.

What a great weekend. All our local SE London boys won. Who of course you should be supporting. And even though I hate Man U and Newcastle, they won as well. Getting exciting at the bottom. Oh, and of course with a number of our libraries closing in SE London, the London Overground gives us an easy opportunity to visit a library in Islington.

Thanks for all the posts. You will see that I did contact the number of the seller, but was told that the bike had "been sold" and "was his brothers". The cops told me that the crims never actually own the bikes, but are always selling them for "a mate or relative". To answer some of the points: I am not a vigilante but I would like to give some grief to the thief - and alternatively someone out there may find that I was wrong! I would clearly stay within the law, but if I draw your attention to some ads on Gumtree then there is of course nothing stopping you from calling and passing the number onto your mates to do similar. There is a Met Police Cycle Task Force who do sting operations, I hope I have provided them with enough information, even if I don't get my bike back, to do something: www.londoncyclist.co.uk/news/spending-the-day-with-the-cycle-task-force-of-the-met-police/ www.met.police.uk/transport/cycle_security.html The crims use pay as you go mobiles and no doubt change them very often. Difficult to trace people through Gumtree. My evdidence is circumstantial, but it is highly likely that this was my bike. More views please!

Last night my 'mid-range' push bike was stolen on Northumberland Avenue. The thief cropped through an armoured chain to get at it. After 3 1/2 years and 15000 miles I was upset to say the least. Around half an hour later on gumtree an ad went up for my bike, a rather general description but it is quite a unique model. On searching the mobile number on google I found four more adds for mid range racers. All rather 'general' and all using 'brochure' rather than real pictures. I have informed the police and hoped (and still hope) for a sting operation. In frustration I called the number only to get an evasive response, that it was his brother's bike and it had been sold. All this fits in with the information from London Cycle Campaign about Gumtree and what the police told me. Compare with e-bay and for the same type of bike on sale there is heaps of information and numerous pictures of the cycle indicating that for my type of model these are genuine ads. Anyway, pending futher police investigations I will quite happily share the mobile of the person on gumtree on this forum, in the hope that 100s of people would then call or text to ask about the bike. That would p them off, and also indicate that they had been rumbled. Yes it is futile, yes they will change their number, but it will get back at them for a while. The ad was in the public domain so their are no issues of privacy. And I would not suggest any texts would start up with 'dear bike thief'. Views please! Sadly I am not Facebook savvy enough to use this as a means for a campaign.

Someone got out of the bed the wrong side. Why don't people flush public toilets? Whoops gone off thread. PS this really is (seriously) a welcoming forum.

That tickled me!

Journey times this week into work - Monday 30 minutes, Tuesday 35 minutes, Wednesday 40 minutes, Thursday two hours, Friday 40 minutes. Guess which day I took the bus in? And I was grateful that unlike the trains at least they were running. And thanks to the twot in the metal box who came up behind me tonight and hooted as I turned right off Forest Hill Road. Yes I really appreciated you doing that whilst I was carefully manoevering over icy roads.

Clearly they had (or had the threat of) Polonium-210 in their water. What an apposite posting

See the SE23 Exile thread for the start of this discussion. http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?20,379657