atila the gooner

Is it in? - Eddie Harris

Yes we were paragon, and let's hope that, to quote the song title, things can only get better. They certianly need to.

And the beat goes on - The Whispers

Heart of stone - Rolling Stones

Crap result at the weekend. Can't complain about the pitch, which is not a valid point. We are a better team than Wigan and should have been able to see Wigan off but we didn't. Jesus, we know how to make life hard for ourselves!!!

Jah Lush Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I'm afraid you're wrong there Atila it was Marcus > Garvey. Bob Marley appropriated the words into the > song War. Sorry to disagree with you Jah but lyrics from the song War, adapted from an excerpt of Ethiopian Emperor H.I.M. Haile Selassie?s address to the United Nations in October 1963 by Bob Marley.

???? Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > which part of "i've never voted tory" didn't you > understand....stop thinking in stereotypes...you > really are like Rick in The Young Ones aren't you? You really are a dipstick aren't you? Which part of I'm not a geography lecturer don't you understand. Are you sure you're not a commodity broker?

Fair enough ratty, I think 'arry should grow up though and start talikng to the BBC, if he doesn't he will only be stooping to Fergusons level, and 'arry is better than that.

???? Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Are you a geography lecturer at a Poly > Attila...you certainly sound like one. Actually............no, and if you are going to use my name, do me the courtesy of spelling it correctly, there's a good Tory, I mean chap. It can't be too hard, it's attached to all my postings, all you have to do is copy it. By the way your Forum ID is in keeping with your beliefs, very 80's Tory, Loadsomoneyesque. Were you a commodity broker previously?

Steady on ratty, I didn't realise Pompey fans were anti Arsenal. We've always got on with Pompey fans especially after your fans applauded Henry off the pitch a few seasons ago when we beat you in the FA cup. I only expect such reactions from Spurs, Man Ure, or Lokomotiv Fulham fans.

Your analytical brain is obviously more akin to Harry Enfields Tory Boy, and giving yourself praise for being able to be analytical is laughable, as you will note that at no point did I say that I felt it was right to leave the Falklands in the hands of a dictatorship. With your wonderful analytical brain I thought you would be able to get your facts right. But I would also say that we choose to stick our oar in where it's not wanted, and don't condemn when we should, for example we choose not to condemn some of the outrageous acts of brutatlity and carnage committed by Israel against the Palestinians. As for your earlier point about unions using force and intimidation, it doesn't excuse mounted police baton charging miners in South Yorkshire. This sort of behaviour maybe acceptable in dictatorships, which you quite rightly condemn, but we are supposed to live in country that prides itself on restraint, shame we forgot about that when the boys in blue were laying into the miners on horseback.

???? Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > A Level Sociology Student politics > > The unions used force and intimidation throughout > the 1970s to continually bring the democratically > elected governments of this country to their > knees, the miners didn't even ballot their members > for strike action in 1984, it was mass > intimidation.. > > A fascist dicatorship invaded a country fully > recognised by the UN and imposed its junta against > the will of its poeple and Thatcher(sic) was brave > enough to not accept this and ... > > sorry the'plebs' in the 1980s didn't vote the way > you'd liked....presumably that was The Sun's fault > or something Jesus you are an angry Blue boy aren't you. Calm down before you hurt yourself. There are many contrys fully recognised by the UN that have had juntas of various persuasions "imposing their will against the will of the people" (did you borrow this from an A level text book?)and fu*k all has been done about it, including the glorious British government that you are full of praise for. Usually our government only gets involved if there is something in it for us, or follows the lead of our illustrious puppet masters the US.

???? Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > pathetic In what way?

Mamora Man said - Somehow Mrs Thatcher has become a totemic hate figure, based upon a caricature of her and her policies that is closer to the Spitting Image version of life. She was an outstanding politician who, by hard work and force of personality made it to the top of British politics and wrought change - change that was sorely needed. Is this because she was responsible for sending the police in to South Yorkshire to break up the miners strike and used brute force to do so? Or the fact that she used the Falklands conflict to boost her flagging popularity and get herslef re-elected. The woman was poison, and I have no sympathy for her or her current plight. She was the closest to an unfeeling despot we've had in this country. I wish her nothing but ill feeling.

FA TO INVESTIGATE FERGUSON COMMENTS FOLLOWING DEFEAT TO PORTSMOUTH - sour grapes from fergusmoan, no surprise there then. Everything about him is repellant. I was shocked that Man Ure didn't get a pen yesterday because they usually do. Even though they should have had one yesterday, we all know that decisions sometimes go for you sometimes they don't, what is that mans problem, apart from the fact that he is a tw*t.

FERGUSMOAN UNHAPPY WITH REF SHOCK - Fergusmoan feels that the decision made by the ref to send off his keeper is unfair and he doesn't want to play anymore and has gone home to mummy sucking his thumb.

spoonful

Jah Lush Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "Until the colour of a man's skin is of no more > significance than the colour of his eyes then > everywhere is war." > > - Marcus Garvey I think this is Emperor Haile Selassie speech Jah.

behind blue eyes - The 'orrible 'oooo

Jah Lush Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Definitely. But I think part of Bentley's beef at > the time was that the English players didn't get a > look in when it came to the first team. And, I > suppose to a certain extent that still has a ring > of truth about it. I think Theo is the start of things to come at the Arsenal.

Theos' situation reminds me of another young player who waited a while before he made the first team, and can play a bit. His name...........................Francesc Fabregas. Worth the wait I think you will agree.

citizenED Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > White pride is symbolised by Statues around > Westminster (and other city centres), Paintings of > Generals in the National Gallery and other such > visual shows of power and authority. It's clearly > demonstrated by all the white captains of > industry, bishops, MP's and media moguls we see on > the TV. There is no need for any specific act by > any regular white person in the UK to celebrate > white achievement. > > This is not the case for other ethnicities. I think this is what's known as a sweeping generalistaion. So nothing commendable, or worthy of civic pride has ever been achieved by a white person in the UK, ever, only by people from other ethnicities. I won't even begin to say I vehemently disagree, because it's not worth it. Let's just agree to disagree.

lozzyloz Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > What exactly is involved in being White? Are there > White things a black man can't do? I think you're missing the point here. I've not said that, I've asked if people think it's ok to say they are proud of being white in the same way black people are proud of being erm.......black. At what point did I hint or suggest that one section was unable to do things the other section couldn't. Please help me out here cos I don't see what you're getting at.

lozzyloz Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Why should someone's colour be something to be > proud of as if it's a badge? Surely it's WHO you > are. Then people would be less inclined to fight > because somebody says that white is better than > black or whatever. I don't feel my colour is > something that I need to be proud of and say "Hey, > look at me". But if I'm in a situation where a > group are making their colour a reason to > discriminate against me I feel uncomfortable. Same > applies to religion, gender, creed, sexuality and > football team. I certainly don't wear my colour as a "badge" but I don't see why it would be ok for one sction of society to proclaim they are proud of their colour and not for another section. I am what I am and proud of it, an part of what I am is being white. I'm also proud of being a parent, that's not a "badge" and I'm proud of my Turkish Cypriot roots again that is not a "badge", and I don't see how saying I'm proud of these things would make another section of society feel discriminated against. But we are all entitled to our opinions.

So it's ok to say black and proud but not white and proud?