LadyDeliah

Undolicited PM's to someone you are slagging off publicly are fair game in my opinion.

If a bunch of people want to prove how nice they are by saying 'I like kittens', staying silent because you are not interested in playing the oh-aren't-I-so-great game, doesn't mean you hate kittens.

edcam Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > This thread isn't about car drivers, many of whom > I think we all acknowledge drive badly and > dangerously. It's about cyclists behaving > dangerously. > > It's just a little tedious and embarrassing that > certain posters won't acknowledge that some > cyclists are dicks. Who on here has actually said that they refute the fact some cyclists are dicks? Show me any post on here where anyone has said what you have just claimed.

Rye Lane caters for mainly non-white or non-middle class customers. White and middle class ED residents don't like it. So what? Go somewhere else to shop then.

After a brief read through showboat's posting history I have discovered that a good amount of other posters 'are not worth it' and trolls according to him/her. I was going to post links, but there are so many examples, it seemed a tad excessive.

Sorry, I tried to kill it, honest but it's got a life of it's own. Plus People writing garbage about me makes it hard not to respond. I'll try harder next time.

I'm calling you on your continued claim that I condone dangerous cycling on the pavement, showboat. Show me any post I've written that backs up your accusation.

I'm clearly worth a PM though showboat. showboat Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > In reply to > [www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk] > ,1267899,1271889#msg-1271889 > .... > > Right, listen up. > > As I said already... > > I don't even hold a driving licence, neither does > my wife. I hold no agenda for the 'car is best' > cartel. I cycle less than I'd like to precisely > because my wife is scared of what might happen to > me on the road. Feel free to go back over my old > posts of you think in lying. > > BUT...as cyclists we must SHARE some of the space > with pedastrians. It's a grey area, and I believe > that - like the law of the sea - the bigger just > always give way to smaller and more vulnerable. > > My beef with you is that you refuse to accept that > cyclists have a duty in this respect. Stop trying > to deflect the argument, and admit that. Point me to one comment I have made that backs up your claim. Just because I don't join in your mantra on this thread, doesn't mean I condone dangerous cycling on pavements. We are not a generic group and I do not have to lower my head just because another cyclist doesn't want attention drawn to them. I've written pages on this subject in previous threads and frankly cannot be arsed continually repeating myself, only to get the same knee jerk responses from those who prefer us to risk out lives on dangerous roads than share space on the pavements. If you are so interested in my opinion on cyclists, I suggest you trawl through my old posts and educate yourself on what my position actually is. LD P.s. Anyone who starts their communication with, "Right, listen up. As I said already..." is clearly so far up themselves that they can't hear anyone other than themselves anyway.

And not sure if anyone noticed, but the OP dropped the match, stood back and hasn't had to fan the flames since the first post. Predictable, so no marks for effort H.

That's so kind of you Loz. I am touched! But didn't he turn into a middle aged dentist?

And for every step closer to equality of provision we take, I'll be smiling, thinking of your increasingly frothy keyboards.

I think that's a given AC, televised rejection for the amusement of the gallery.

No, I can't be arsed because I've said it all many times before and in any case, all I have to do is wait ..... . . . . The tide is already turning ..,,. . . . Motorists and pedestrians will have no choice but to share space with cyclists ...... . . . We are coming and you can all complain and huff and puff as much as you like ..... . . . . You can't stop us .... . . HaHaHaHa think I'm smug now, just wait .... :-)

Can't be arsed!

And in other news, people are still getting slaughtered in Syria, Iraq, Afgsnistsn, DRC ....

I treated myself to an indian head massage, a full body massage and a facial :-)

I submit the anti-cyclists took it off the subject of the op and some cyclists responded to their negative comments, myself included. The moment I saw the thread, I knew that would be exactly what happened and the EDFers haven't let me down.

BrandNewGuy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > henryb Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > In my view driving a car in the busy, polluted > > city is more anti-social than cycling on the > > pavement. > > Uh? So what you're saying is, "Here's a worse > thing than the bad thing you mentioned, so it > makes your bad thing less bad." Stabbing people is > worse than spitting at them, too. And then Brandnewguy decides to ramp it up by bringing in stabbing and spitting at someone.

edcam Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It's a problem that's definitely getting worse. > And I agree it gives the cyclists with a brain or > an iota of respect for others a bad name. Post 4, unsubstantiated assertion that bad behaviour of cyclists is getting worse.

Zebedee Tring Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > People like that give well behaved cyclists a bad. > Unfortunately there are too many arrogant, badly > behaved cyclists around these days. Post 3, too many arrogant, badly behaved cyclists around these days. Negative general cyclist comment based on nothing but this poster's prejudice.

I didn't comment about the cyclist who was the subject of the op because I wasn't there and don't usually comment on what people say they saw. I responded to the posters who made general comments about cyclists, as I am a cyclist and they therefore apply to me. If people don't want cyclists to respond to negative comments on them as a group, I suggest they keep the topic to the individual in the op instead of dragging us all off on these tedious cyclist bashing tangents.

Within 3 posts this thread descended into a general cyclist bashing thread, as do all threads on here that have anything at all to do with cyclists, but for some reason some of you expect cyclists not to challenge the shit that's said about them. Cycle hatred by motorists endangers my life. I refuse to ignore it when I see it, no matter how boring you think that may be.

BrandNewGuy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > LadyDeliah Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Stabbing and spitting are assaults, cycling on > the > > pavement responsibly without harm to anyone > cannot > > be compared. Driving on the other hand causes > ill > > health by way of exhaust fumes, congestion and > > damage to the roads. > > Driving on the road is legal. Cycling on the > pavement is dubiously legal. Currently, but watch this space.

Stabbing and spitting are assaults, cycling on the pavement responsibly without harm to anyone cannot be compared. Driving on the other hand causes ill health by way of exhaust fumes, congestion and damage to the roads.

Hmmmm, I think I'll stay out of this one. Unless someone mentions human rights again :-)