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Hmm, it looks cool, and if you're a massive Beethoven fan, and love that symphony then it's probably a must have. I personally think I'd have a bit of a play with it then forget about it, so I wouldn't bother.

No link mate. Sounds interesting though.

Is the ED Station ever open (public front desk) anymore? They must still use the building as office space, I can't see them just letting it sit completely empty.

I've never played a hitman game to be honest, I knew this wasn't the first, but hadn't realised there was a series. Just seen the box and picked it up several times but never got as far as taking it to checkout. I'll have a look on youtube and maybe try the demo. Like I need to start more games! Good to see I'm not alone with that race mission. I think it's made even harder by the touch screen controls. Sure it would still be hard, but I think a controller would make it a bit easier.

GTA Vice City is my favourite GTA Game by some distance, but it has a few REALLY annoying missions, all of which involve some sort of race or time trial. I'm nearing the end of the game, but am struggling to pass "The Driver", a road race, in which they give you a really shit car, against speedy gonzales! And one where you have to drop fliers for your porn film from a sea plane which is a bitch to control!!! I just want to shoot some shit! Plugged in my xbox yesterday for the first time in Aaaaages! Had a quick look at GTA4, and am still a bit meh about it. And the controls seem sluggish when you're moving the character around (although the driving is pretty cool) Have decided that I must finish Undead Nightmare. Cowboys and Zombies, now there's a game with everything! Has anyone played Hitman Absolution? It's only ?10 - ?12 now, and I'm tempted, but would be interested to hear thoughts.

Well done Palace, good to see them back up, and hope it's for more than a season!

Congrats Palace!

Ward will still beat either of them though.

Done. And cheers!

Good to meet you too KK. Nice oub to watch the fight in, and not packed which was good. Oh, and pkease do mention us to your mate at the golf club and let me know if you need ne to resend the link or burn a disk. Cheers!

Just inside the door at a tall table. Meeting Jeremy.

Plus the fact they woukd be martyred then. Very sad, particularly hearing he was a dad to a small child. Not liking all the Facebook tribute pages though, find all that a bit creepy.

Damn it, I would have gotten that one!!!! And yes, it was the other way round.

Fair play. I could just phone them to be fair.

If EDT are showing it please let us know on here. Much easier to get home from than the rose for me.

Yeah, all that stuff he said. I don't know the ins and outs of this, but a friend suggested that by labelling it terrorism, the police are given more power due to anti terrorist legislation. That may be part of the reason that the powers that be were so quick to use the word...

Mick, if the shopkeeper leaves his shop for a few minutes and a load of kids run in and steal all the sweets, then yes, he's partly to blame. They didn't just look away for a moment.

It ised to be Camberwell, but Foxtons came.

That's a whole different thread right there.

Richard Dart was from the ginger race. Now that was weird.

Nothing you say there is wrong quids, but even so, I'm pretty sure the vast vast majority of Muslim people probably think all those things you mention are as fucked up as you do. Just like most Catholics not being dirty old kiddie fiddlers.

I did wonder if they were hoping to be "martyred" when the police arrived. That said, even if they had some accomplices (there have been some arrests), I still don't know if I think of it differently to *bob*. I am not trying to make light of it at all, and I'm not disrespecting the dead, but the amateur nature of it did make me think of the English bloke in 4 Lions.

"Further, it's fascinating and bewildering why there's such reluctance and resistance in using the "t" word" Are you having a laugh? The "t" word is everywhere!

No one can deny that the motive was all about the jihad, they told us by film, it's not a mystery. He went to uni, so can't be as thick as I'd first suspected (not that you need to be especially bright to go to uni). Who knows what makes a young guy, raised in a Christian Nigerian family in East London, believe in something enough to do this to a stranger on the street. I still think that however nasty / horrible a crime this was, it's not particularly helpful to be harping on about a terrorist attack.

True. And saying Froch likes fighters who stand and let him hit them.