"This thread is starting to parody itself. Now, what other annoying groups of people can we start to include? Toddlers with dogs off lead? Single work-from-home cyclists? Let's do it!" I know I was being slightly mischeivious in sharing this thread with the Family Room, but I think it would genuinely be nice if we couold discuss certain things on this forum without every one with kids immediately going on the defencive, and everyone without kids immediately making sweeping statements about parents and kids. Early posts from Nanny, Mike P, LondonMix and Pickle were refreshing to read, and reflect how I really feel as a parent who looks at the behaviour of some other parents as shocking.