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Maritap, can I ask how long ago your first daughter left home? I can't imagine an 18 year old getting council accommodation these days!

Well then, no fairytale comeback for Hatton last night and he's now calling it a day once and for all Fair play to him though, he needed to answer some questions for himself in order to move on. He easily could've gone in there and knocked out some nobody in front of 20000 screaming fans just to give himself an ego boost. Instead he took on a recent world champ only defeated once, and he wasn't up to the task. Respect for giving it a go and finding some closure, and here's hoping that despite the defeat he's able to move on now with his head high.

Garden bins if you request one (which I think is a better idea than giving them to every household, as a lot of gardens are paved). As far as I know they will collect things, but haven't used the service so not 100% sure. As I say, it's a personal thing, and I'm sure both councils have good and bad points, I wasn't trying to win a competition, just saying to the OP that she could do worse than consider Sydenham.

Brockley is on the same train line as Honor Oak Park, Forest Hill and Sydenham. Plus there is the 484 bus. Primary Schools around here seem pretty good to me (our eldest will start next year so we are in the process of looking around now). The outstanding ofsted school is Eliot Bank, but when our daughter was offered a preschool place there we didn't get a particularly nice vibe from it, and have heard similar comments from others, but different folks and all that. We are not worried that our little ones won't end up in a decent local school, there are plenty.

Gidget / Cactus, I guess it's personal opinion, but I think they do a better job with refuse collection (2 wheelybins outside, one for rubbish one for recycling, and both emptied weekly), and I definitely see way more street cleaners, it just feels like it's taken care of better. Parks also tend to be much nicer and better kept. Not great on street lighting though, as the roads near me are very dark at night. Guess that is partly to do with lovely big trees blocking the light though. Can't have everything. All in all, I just feel like my council tax is better spent, and that I actually benefit from it.

As someone who grew up in, and loved East Dulwich, I was a bit reluctant when I moved in to my girlfriend's (now wife) flat in Sydenham, and was hoping to get her down to ED. Having now lived in Sydenham for nearly 7 years, I can honestly say if I had half a million quid and the choice of identical houses in ED or Sydenham, I'd choose the latter,. All the good things about ED are just down the road and easily accessible, but you get to leave the less good bits (some of the people) behind and live in an area with much nicer housing stock and a lot more trees. Plus there are things I prefer about Lewisham Council over Southwark. Downside is that there isn't much in the way of places to go out, but ED 10 minutes on a bus, or Crystal Palace 5 minutes, so not really a problem.

I'd not heard about these scams, will be on the look out, as I must admit I always have my phone on the table!

How was it nicked? I'd imagine more likely to just try and flog it.

I see SAF has already gotten a good dig in on Rafa. He makes a fair point about Rafa walking in to a team ahead of a World Club Championship having not built that team, but really it's a bit of an unnecessary low blow.

No, but would be keen to hear feecback!

Sunderland 1 v West Brom 2 Everton 1 v Norwich 1 Man Utd 3 v QPR 3 (you never know...) Stoke 2 v Fulham 0 Wigan 1 v Reading 1 Aston Villa 0 v Arsenal 3 Swansea 1 v Liverpool 2 Southampton 2 v Newcastle 3 Chelsea 3 v Man City 1 (Torres hatrick... Yeah right) Tottenham 2 v West Ham 2

Harry wouldn't actually say he was interested on MOTD last week out of respect for Hughes. It was very clear that he was interested though. I find Hughes really difficult to like, so quite pleased really. Agree about the timing though, very odd. Perhaps they wanted to spare him the final humiliation of a thumping at United.

It's an under the counter thing, you have to wink and ask for today's specials.

Carbonara Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > re this 'they are all different' - Monkey may not > have even been even trying to teach letters and > 'sounding out'. She may have just been encouraging > her daughter in normal 3 year old play. Many 3 > year olds are like this these days, or 'differnt' > because different parents get busy with the flash > cards etc. > > If she shows an interest, encourage it, slowly and > within reason. If not, I wouldn't push it. Absolutely agree, wasn't suggesting otherwise in my post. We've never actively sat and tried teaching letters to my daughter, there is plenty of time for that boring nonsense down the line.

Snapped up after leaving Liverpool by the top club in Europe at that time. 6 months later sacked with a somewhat blemished rep IMO.

My 3.5 year old can type her name on a keyboard, but at the same time she's still not potty trained! They are all different, don't worry, if he seems happy then all is well with the world.

RD, I reckon Ferguson will be carried out of old trafford in a box. Just can't imagine him retiring after his famous U-Turn after the 99 treble.

Bloody hell PGC, here we all are talking about silly little fears and then you come out with running out of fags. I won't sleep now!

So, City out of the CL again. This could well help them defend their league title, but will their owners be more patient than RA...

That is a fair point, but they should have just had some backbone and not given him the contract in the first place. They took so long to give it that it was clearly not what they wanted. Chelsea fans reeeeeally not wanting Rafa!

Fair points both H, but perhaps if nothing else it could raise some awareness, I'd never heard of this syndrome before. Anyway, I signed.

Pinky82 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- He is a strong man and comes from a close knit family so asking for any > kind of medical help would be like he had failed, so that wouldn't happen. Do I feel sorry for him? > now there's a question I've never thought about.....Possibly I do?? Could you chat with someone in his close knit family? Pinky82 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > There is no way in a million years he would even > admit that he tells all these lies let alone get > any help or therapy. If you are sure of this, then maybe you do need to cut your losses. In fact, starting this thread may have been your (subconscious) way of sowing the seed in your own head / justifying the decision.

No no Pickle, you're being far too sensible for this forum. Clearly they are a bunch of baby hating, child hating, woman hating, homophobic scumbags. Probably racist too. I hear they actually EAT babies!

To be fair to the fans (which pains me!) they haven't really called for the head of any of RA's 8 (or is it 9 now) managers. Saw a tweet on the BBC earlier saying Alex Ferguson would struggle to last a season at that club. It is madness. Problem is, some clubs will at least have to weigh up whether the financial implications of letting a manager go are viable. Chelsea have no such concerns.

What Jeremy said! It's clearly not "normal" behaviour, and it is something that he should be seeking help about. It's very easy to say "give him the elbow", which of course would be the easy way out, and no one could blame you for taking that route, but the people saying this don't know the bloke or have feelings for him, and when you love someone it's not so easy to just "give them the elbow". That said, I don't think it would be advisable to move in with him in this state. I'd suggest you sit down with him, discuss your concerns, ask him to do something about it, and go with him to see someone (otherwise how do you know he's been). If you are feeling this way at this stage, it will take a while for you to trust him fully, and I wouldn't recommend moving in with someone on that basis.