Otta

Probably doesn't take that much pushing, when you look at what a head gets paid. I'd do it!

Seriously?!?!?!? WTF!!!!

I never said that did I? I agreed with *bob*'s initial post, that both sides have been silly, and the whole thing is a complete and utter nonsense, blown out of all proportion. I was just talking about one particular post, and you chose to put words in to my mouth.

showboat Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Otta - I don't want to drag this off-topic, but I > can assure you there are those who think this way. > You'd be amazed what some sections of the > community from the Indian sub-continent think > about the Afro-Carribean community, and vice > versa. > > I remember reading a Darcus Howe column in which > he railed against exactly that type of thinking, > writing about how exasperated he felt by the > infighting which does so much to hold back > concerted and organised anti-racism action. No one > can deny that white bigots are the biggest > 'threat' where racism is concerned, but those who > think it is limited to those idiots are fooling > themselves. My wife (of Trinidadian descent) is > constantly amazed by the attitudes she hears from > Carribean's who feel safe talking in front of her. I think you may have missed my point. I was basically trying to say what you've just said. I know / or have worked with lots of people from different races, and have witnessed lots of racism at other groups. To say you can only be racist if you've never experienced it, is a nonsense. 2 wrongs don't make a right, and if you are the victim of racism, that doesn't give a person the right to then go and be racist to other groups. Anyway, off topic. As for what Murphy said, I don't think s/he was saying that this issue shouldn't be discussed on here, but rather, that it was wrong to attack a person's professionalism, or personality on here. If that is what Murphy meant, then I couldn't agree more.

I'm sure you're right, that some people do believe this, but I just can't believe that anyone would honestly think this is correct. I think your posts have been good Penguin68.

*Bob* Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It's hard to decide who comes out of this the > worst (apart from the children and the rest of the > staff). I think I'd prefer to have both governors > and a head who were capable of better judgement. > > Actually it would be nice to have a governor and a > head who could manage to resolve any differences > at a level somewhere above 'playground' in the > first place. Wisest post of the thread.

I know it wasn't your intention Pickle, but I think you've sold worsele a few vests with this thread! :-) I'm a bloke, and I dont think the pattern is boyish. They both work. Personally though, I'd rather have something that was neither of those colours for my daughter.

We wanted a girl called Pebbles, but we bottled it. She was going to be our little rock chick.

Ha ha, that would be quite good buggie!

I love the name Harper. And that book. Not sure about Atticus though if I'm honest.

Ruth, my better half is Jewish. Although to be fair, we don't live in the village.

Jane Roulston Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > i have 2 girls and my mum name one of them because > she was her 1st grandaughter after 7 grandsons.her > name is tammy louise.and my other daughter is > jodie rosina Good work to your mum, our daughter is called Tami. Different spelling, but sounds the same :-) we're having another girl in the summer. Have a name picked out, which is quite unusual, and from a famous novel.

God I loved that adventure playground when I was a kid! Although in those days it was bloody dangerous! :)-D

Nothing to add, just wanted to say thu my wife is in a very similar boat, and best of luck with whatever yo decide.

You obviously missed the bit where I said I totally appreciated those arguments. I was just trying to make a point, that might have eased some short term concerns, whilst you're busy changing the education system.

I totally appreciate the faith school arguments above, but just wanted to say, I have never met anyone who has become christian, or had their beliefs changed by a faith secondary school. Primary, perhaps, as it's a much more impressionable age group, but secondary, I think not.

I'm interested why you ask that Anotherperson?

Fair enough. And I do sympathise, and dont blame you for wanting to do something. I do have serious reservations about the whole free school thing though.

Heh, for the record, I wasn't suggesting that the country is made up solely of ditches filled with the bodies of teenagers :-) I think a lot of it is to do with what you know. HeidiHI, you're a london girl, now enjoying something different. Friends and family of mine from more rural places, couldn wait to get to London. I'm sometimes tempted to move somewhere near the sea, but I love London, and I can't drive, which I think would make life difficult.

I don't know, a lot of the time when teenage girls go missing, and turn up go a ditch, it's outside of big towns or cities. Possibly because we dont really have ditches in London, but you get my point.

I agree with Queenie on the whole free school thing, it's just designed to increase class gaps. Mark, I do feel for you, but I can't help but think that you wouldn't be up in arms about the system, had our son been allocated one of your choices.

Good for you HeidiHi :)-D Sillywoman, one could argue that what you're describing is having friends. I bump in to lots of people I know in ED too, because I use the pub. (well, I used to use it a lot more) Either way, I like ED a lot (it will always be "home" in a way), but sometimes I shake my head when I see people trying to talk it up like it's got some sort of dome around it, and only lovliness exists inside. Have you not thought that perhaps you could move not very far away, get your extra bedroom, and bigger garden, but still get what you want from ED? That is basically what I do, it's having your cake and eating it. (although I only rent, I don't think I'll ever be able to buy a place, in ED or anywhere else in London!)

People do talk about the community thing, but I have to say, it's not something that I've witnessed in any special way, that's different from anywhere else. The place where I've felt like I was partof a community, was Wavertree, Liverpool. I think perhaps, you only really get to be part of te East Dulwich community, if your face fits.

Housing stock is largely victorian terraces built for workers, you'll get a lot more, and a lot nicer for your money in forest hill op sydenham. I don't want to sound like I'm anti East Dulwich, because I'm absolutely not, but I do think people talk it up a bit much at times.

No it's not. House prices in ed are way higher than surrounding areas, and there is a lot of snobbery. To say otherwise is sure denial. It's a good place though.