I just did a test of my speed with Virgin and got 47mbps. When I see some of you with 13 and 10 I think that must be really slow. Makes me wonder if I'm overrating my speed in that maybe I could be just as happy with a slower speed and better off paying less with Sky. They phoned me the other day as I was a TV customer, but changed to Virgin as they offered an increased broadband speed if you took their tele too. When I said I wouldn't mind at all changing back to Sky tele if only they sorted out their broadband, I was surprised that the response I got was not one of defence of their product but like an understanding that they couldn't compete.