Personally speaking, if there was a nutter loose on Therapia Rd with a gun, harmless or otherwise I would be willing the police to take him down. Negotiating and group hugs don't seem appropriate when the safety of other people is being threatened. Totally agreeing with Huggie's point on De Menedes affair, tragic wrong-place-wrong-time stuff but bigger picture, the police are there to protect the well-being of the masses who chhose to toe the line. If you live by the sword, you die by the sword. End of!