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Would the whole place need to close Jagger? Jagger Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yes this is definitely the Crown and Greyhound in > Dulwich Village. There is a notice up (not a > planning application notice but an information > sheet) outside the post office in Dulwich Village. > The pub are proposing to convert the building into > a twenty-room hotel. They will retain the function > room at the front of the building, and convert the > function room at the back of the building into > (part of the) accommodation. The pub and the > restaurant will remain. Should this go ahead, the > building will close for 15-17 months while the > works are undertaken.

You might as well shut down this forum, and indeed all forums then David. Think of it as if you are down the pub with friends or colleagues, a lot of the conversation won?t be purely based on fact (and how boring would it be if it was!) I can quite easily imagine a conversation where someone says; ?did you hear that bang last night, sounded like a gunshot? ?yeah I heard it too and a helicopter overhead, I wonder what was going on? ?Gang related no doubt? david_carnell Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Absolutely no facts are being discussed here. No > one KNOWS anything. Utterly pointless.

How about using it to name and shame, like this? http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23981237-cctv-images-of-riot-yobs-beamed-onto-giant-screen.do Could include suspicious people on buses, noisy cats, urinating footballers.... Btw I?m not being serious before anyone sends this to the Guardian ;-)

Bit too simplistic that. There may be some truth in that for ready meals, fish fingers that sort of thing but the quality of the fresh food in Waitrose is a world away from the like is Tesco (deliberately steering clear of the Iceland/Waitrose debate!). And you have different ranges within a supermarket, so it may be true for say Sainsbury basic but not the pricier stuff Pugwash Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hubby in his youth worked in a food producing > factory and stated that the same products were > packaged for all different companies i.e. Heinz, > Nestles, Sainsburys etc. - Paying double the price > depending on the packet. > > Heard the same from a friend who worked in a Birds > Eye Factory during University vacations. > > I purchased something for a community party at > icelands and so many people came upto me to ask > where I had got the goods from as it was so tasty > - (they thought it was an M & S purchase) > > Shall I stir everything up and suggest a Lidl or > Aldi in ED!! They scored highly for some items > against M & S and waitrose in 'Which'

Good news. I've been looking for something like this for friends and family to stay in when visiting, actually was hopeful The Dog would have a few B & B rooms and surprised and disappointed when I found out this wasn?t the case. The biggy is going to be how much they are planning to charge...

Probably due to a lot of travelling on trains and tubes with travel bags and laptops etc ( or maybe i?m just paranoid ...I blame EDF!) but I try to be aware of potentially risky situations and take some precautions. Things like hooking the strap round your leg or holding onto stuff when the tube or bus is stopping and doors are opening. Doesn't take much imagination to work out that someone grabbing your phone and jumping off tubes just as the doors closing is a good tactic (for them!) Seen enough movies where people escape using this method! I?ve also said before on here about using a wrist strap with stuff like mobiles. Still slim pickings for the Iphone out there but have found thiese; http://www.trait-tech.com/product/T-iP4G-7055__wrist-strap-screw-holder-screwdriver-for-iphone-4-4g.html http://www.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=512055 also if you re listing to music use the controls on the headphones rather than getting the iPod/phone out.

Thanks Morty!

Jeremy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I wasn't really talking about individual people, > literally changing the area singlehandedly. More > the kind of mentality behind posts like "why can't > we replace Iceland with a Waitrose", or "why can't > we knock down the ugly flats on ... road". Agree, you shouldn't demand. If there is a need it will happen. Don't see anything wrong with promoting/advertising the need, but you shouldn't do that by putting down what is already there (unless it's not being used.

Jeremy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I think you're the first person I've ever > encountered who identifies themself as a yuppie! > > While I don't share DF's overtly negative opinion > of the gentrification of ED, I do have > reservations. I don't like the idea of people > moving here and hoping/trying to change it, and I > certainly don't like the suggestion that people > should move away if they don't like what the area > has become. I don't think anyone has suggested either Jeremy. Places change over time, partly because new people move in and create markets for new things (i.e. they themsleves are not forcing a change). No one has said Fox should leave, just can't quite understand why anyone would live somewhere if they didn't like it and/or it was making them miserable.

Fox did I say cool? Maybe it is, maybe it isn't - I'm not cool enough to know! Places to drink - I like the mix, from old fashioned ?boozers? like The Castle to Wine Bars such as Green and Blue. Food wise - French, Italian, Turkish, Indian, nice roasts..not been disappointed so far. Shops - Sainsbury, Co-Op Iceland, the delis and butcher cover off my needs food wise. Clothes shops, the market, bookshops and home stuff allow enough browsing opportunities and the occasional purchase. Buying a birthday present for a 1 year old at the weekend, spoilt for choice! And anyway central London is 20 minutes away should that not be enough for you. I used to live on a thoroughfare between the ?trendy? part of town and the local chavy nightclub and taxi rank, had years of people urinating on the front door and being sick on my doorstep. If you live on LL maybe you get this, on the side streets is this really problem? I?ve not noticed it. I really like it in ED.

DulwichFox Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I think I prefered ED when it was undiscovered and > shops and pubs catered for local people. > > It was a quiet residential area and locals > gathered in their 'Local' Pub for a chat and find > out latest gossip. > > If you walk down Lordship Lane late on a Fri/Sat > night it is like being in Malia / Ibiza. > It is crazy. > > Pubs I used to use are now filled with 'Tourists' > and clientel seem to change on a weekly basis. > dont know where they all come for, but hardly ever > see the same faces week by week. > > Shops now selling non essensials. have no value to > the local community. > > ED cannot cope with this huge influx of people and > has now lost all it's character. > > couture said.. > Positive interest = more customers = more trade = > business expansion = increased employment > > Yes. more > traffic/cars/congestion/pollution/people/rubbish/n > oise/vandalism/crime/robbery/begging. > > Fox. It does seem from your recent posts that you aren?t too happy living in ED anymore Fox - it?s a shame when somewhere you call home changes and it loses its appeal for you. I?m new to the area (I?m probably one of the tourists you mention as I try places out) and personally I love it. It seems to have a great mix of peace and quiet but with a great variety of shops, cafes, pubs and restaurants. It also seems to have a sense of community that I really wasn?t expecting moving to London. LL is not really like Mali/Ibiza. There's loads of other places in London that are far closer to the party scene you get in holiday resorts.

ED now has a stream. But no workmen.

ClareC Wrote: > Thames water said workmen were there at 4 ..... > But they haven't been! Stuck in traffic and > expected any minute allegedly. Yeah some buggers keep digging up the roads...

you mean "again" ! Thames did do good job of getting it back on line last time, so fingers crossed. Wonder if they "washed" my car with muddy water again... and thanks for teh post acm

jimbo1964 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Really sorry about your robbery. > > I'm a Skoda owner and proud of it! and so you should be, fab cars these days! Plenty of Audi owners in ED paying over the odds for essentially the same car.

sambless Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Man people in East Dulwich can be totally naive > some times. If a young mother approaches you > begging for money for baby food or milk, why not > offer to buy the baby food or milk from Sainsburys > if you can afford it. If a man asked for his train > fair because his wallets been stolen, why not buy > the single ticket from the ticket office. I can't > believe you lot hand ?20 over so readily and then > get home bitting your nails and make these kinds > of threads. ?20?? where does it say that?

Plough_Dulwich Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > > PipD - sorry I appreciate that this may be a bit > late, we serve sunday roasts until they run out > (usually about 4 / 5pm as Clare said. If you'd > like to come in later, we will reserve preordered > roasts for you. Just give us a call. > > Gav Made it in for 7.30, and do you know what there was some left! Girlfriend and I very much enjoyed it, roast potatoes in particular! Couldn?t stay long as meeting friends further down the lane but will definitely be back.

^^ thanks Clare

Can anyone tell me what time Sunday roasts are served till? Cheers

el-torcho Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It goes without saying when I drove along there in > the middle of the afternoon there wasn't a workman > to be seen. Didn't Boris say something about > fining contractors who don't complete repairs on > time? Agree. As James has advised the idea/work seems sensible but why do these things take so bloody long?! Same on the M1, miles of tailbacks and 50 limits but it's a rare day you actually see a worker. When a stretch of motorway was damaged in Japan by the recent earthquake it was rebuilt in 6 days!

for a little balance Plough, I've heard good things about your Sunday roasts and plan to be in on Sunday to find out! :))

aha, mine went down on Saturday and again last night. It was working again the next morning. Green tick flashing which means it not locking onto a signal (or something!) Good to know it's a known problem and good tip sophisofa!

StraferJack Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > > bald guy? scar near his eye? > > He's all over the area - one week he approached me > 5 different times - I wouldn't mind as much if he > recognised me and didn't have the memory of a > goldfish There seems to be a lot of stabbing going on, can one of the usual doom-merchants start a thread on this please? ;-) Other characters in Nottingham, more beggers than con artists, included a guy with a microphone wraped in tin foil who would do an improptu satnd up routine and a chap would would offer to sing you a song (who it turned out usesd to be famous, tipped for world wide fame the famous, before drink and drugs got the better of him)

Used to have a few of 'characters' when I lived in Nottingham with various MOs, one would carry a petrol can and claim he had run out, and just needed a couple of quid to get home. Sometimes it was embellished with a pregnant wife. When I first arrived as a fresh faced uni student I gave money to all of them. You live and learn but as Otta says you did the right thing regardless.

Fair play to Thames water for fixing it so quickly, chap I spoke to was nice and helpful as well. Obviously helped that the source was easily identifiable and the hole had already been dug! I did say before that my car got a free wash, closer inspection last night revealed it had in fact got another mud shower, hope the rain has washed it off!